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No, it is not a Jewish book. Yes it is okay for a Jew to read, if he has
already mastered his own religous scriptures. Otherwise it would be
of benefit to study those first. I think if someone has a sound knowledge
of Torah, and wants to read the NT either for historical reasons or to
gain knowledge for anti-missionary work, it is fine to do...however it
should not be read as a religious text...

New Testament is not a religious book because it is a manual on how to live accordingly. And it is very much ok for a Yehudeh to read that and definitely it is a Yehudeh book because it was written by Yehudim, starting from Reve Mattiyahu to Reve Shaul. And bout anti-missionary work? I dont think so... Yashuah ha Netzare was a missionary because he has a mission and The Great Commision is a mission. That is why it is called commision because we are doing it with THE GREAT MISSIONARY HIMSELF Lord Yashuah. So if your a Yehudeh go pick a Brit Khadasha and read it, there is nothing wrong with it. Much better to read Brit Khadasha than listen to some Orthodox Rabbim(not all...) who are so conceited with their man made traditions and self impaled oral laws.

Yes theres nothing wrong in reading but why is it that some Yehudim cant bring their Bibles(OT-NT) in synagouges without being criticized and ostracized by them conceited Rabbim? Why is it that Messianism is so taboo in our society(Jewish society) but Atheism and Lubavicter and even Hinduism is tolerable in Jewish society even if it is an outright blasphemy to the ALMIGHTY but when it comes to Yashuah or anything bout Yashuah is abominable, why is that? I hope you not an Orthodox cause i smell   sarcasm in your post. Peace mon!

[font=Tahoma][size=medium][color=green]Why would you not read the new testament? It tells the continuing story of our people, our faith, and our Messiah. I home school my children and religion is part of their lessons, old and new testament. Our faith is in God. Ignoring his story is disrespectful and useless.

Hello Sheitl Queen,

My initial reaction is: Are you serious?

Then I realize: Of course you are serious because that's what you believe.

One thing that is good to understand is that you may not be seeing the whole picture. It's like the proverbial blind man describing one part of an elephant not agreeing with another blind man describing another part of the same elephant. The same could be said of two people describing two different sides of the same mountain.

Everything that you know is quite possibly one sided and of the one perspective that you learned. If you really check out what believers in Y'shua are saying, you will find that it is not that different from what Torah says. I would even go as far as to say that if you really know what Torah says and if you really know the teaching of Messiah, it is in fact the exact same teaching. They are the same faith in the same Messiah. The only difference is the time when the texts were written.

With that in mind, perhaps, since it is another Scripture by Jews of another time, it should be checked out to see if it has the same ring of authenticity. Stories that have been made up are easily proven to be false but like (your) Rabbi Gamaliel said, "If it is of God, it cannot be stopped."

Also, we can't just go by what we think nor can we go by what someone else thinks. We have to be sure that we know all of the facts. That means knowing all of the details and that requires a lot of study. It's not something that we can just make a quick judgment about. There are a lot of things to compare.

One reason there is a lot to compare is because, all of the New Covenant teaching including the name "New Covenant" was taken from previous Jewish Scriptures. Almost everything is repeated word for word. The only difference is, Moses said that when He comes, we should listen to Him but even that is the same teaching because it is what Moses said we should do. Y'shua clarified many things about heaven, hell and the salvation that is of God.

Moses and the prophets spoke visions and dreams about Messiah. The disciples saw Him with their eyes. It was clearly something few people expected but even the Messiah son of Joseph (also son of David) was expected by some of the people. People even came from as far as Iraq looking for Him or perhaps even farther than that because they were several kings representing several kingdoms.

It is something worth looking into because the truth is true forever.

Shalom!

Although I am not Jewish by birth, I find Yesua the most loving Jewish Man (messiah) that ever walked this earth. He is a light to all of mankind!

YES - IT IS. As I learned to know it, it means that MATTHEW is the 1-st and from Him the others created they own historical overviews of those happening - the same things that had happend, but the differencies in knowledge make especially the 3 other Evang. among at least 20-30 others, not quite alike the basic source, that is Matthew, tell the same story. That's why they ar different, but One Main Object Common for them: name Jesus & His doings; as the Saviour - but there are 2 Clear Views Of This - both in oposition - of 2 different experience!  

YES - Start with MATTHEW - he is JEW and by following His Writings - His Evang. a part of NT - it should be easy to understand the rest. BUT, it means you need to search deeper, to find out what MATTHEW was & is & why His Jewish Tradition is the Knowledge which indeed survived even to our times... And will do it for ever. It is so, even if many may think is not. Because if you read all scriptues from that times - big task but needed -, you'd find out - yes, even will EE IT - what it all about... Follow MATTHEW, WORD by WORD - not the others who are as much the mystery persons & individs today as all the story expressed i NT was to none-jews from year 250 on.

Yes, it does, and the comment of Elisha_ben_Avuyah is right & CORRECT. Also means that the word ATHEISM isn't correct understood and is used wrong, quite alike it is with the definitions of GNOSTIC Thoughts & Writing, which is greek & in greek, but from hebrew sources, follow its steps: with the ideas of a quite old origin of deep philosophic sorts; about understanding the seders of faiths seeing in practice among normal, not educated folks. Jesus is bearing all the necessary SIGNS of WISDOM... traditions of mainly those arts... Is the Master of Learning - the Teacher occupied of making the Peace; One Historical Insight & Understanding for all ... Basis that makes the Truth!    

This is necessary of me to make a short comment of; I quote; ... Rabbi Gamaliel said, "If it is of God, it cannot be stopped." - Was mentioned by Seekmosttoprophesy...

My jewishness in my bones beg me to speak up.

You all should know WHY Rabbi Gamaliel made his incredible splendid ENTRY INTO THE HEAVENLY KINGDOM? BUT YOU DON'T! The question is: WHY?

If you or anybody else does, please, try to explain. Di it with facts, splendetly!

Shalom
(And I'm truly very sorry for my (?hm) english writing...)