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..where is the God of judgment? Mal 2:17

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness.
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them. Rom 1:18

Recently The Lord has been putting on a powerfull display of all the weapons of his indignation including-

Hurricanes (horrible tempest)
Tornados (whirlwind)
Wildfires
Floods
Earthquakes
Tsunamis (waves raging)
Volcanos
Famines
Droughts
Plagues (Aids, Bird Flu, etc)
Frogs
Animal attacks (even the squirrels are attacking!)
Insect attacks
Insect retreats (Bee rapture, Who hears that Hissing?)
Cold snaps/blizzards
Heat waves
Blasting/mildew (new orleans)
Terrorism
Rats and mice
Hailstones
Flaming debris from heaven (fire and brimstone?)
Lightning strikes
Thunderstorms
Evil Angels (esp. recently in Hollywood)
The sword (hamas/fatah shia/sunni etc.)
mental illness/lunacy

These are all His curses that He promised to put on the enemies of Israel in the end times and yet there is a deafening silence from the christian leadership, or worse, many are attributing these things to Satan. This is the unforgivible sin!

One example of this is the 700 clubs Pat Robertson who has repeatingly called these things-
Wicked Weather
Weird Weather
EVEN GIVING THE GLORY TO THE PAGAN GODDESS, MOTHER NATURE!

When asked by a reporter if God had destroyed New Orleans, Billy Graham is reported to say, "I'm not sure, remember there is also Satan"
As if satan controls the weather or that he would divide his house by destroying one of his favorite wicked cities!

(out of time, will finish tommorow)

cont.

And now we see satan's elect, the wicked hollywood types, mobilizing to spread the godless teaching of man made climate change. They say God has nothing to do with these judgments and that they can "save themselves" by reducing carbon emmisions etc.

Carbon emmisions do not cause earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanos or unprecedented storm activity on Mars!

This is just another Darwinian lie to deny the wrath and judgments of God. For satan hates that God would put His fear into the proud so that they would be turned!

But how does this explain the "christian" silence?

It is the fruit of the lukewarm church that teaches that God is love and love alone.

How many have heard an unbeliever say that they base their unbelief in a just God because he doesn't seem to judge evil on the earth?
I say behold New Orleans, Indonesia, the twin towers of Babylon the Great!

God has given us a powerful tool for evangelism, His Fear, and the church is afraid to use it!

In recent years I've heard such scandalous things from the televangelists as-

"it was an act of.......whatever" -or

after a midwest tornado- "We were attacked...but God fought back!"
(as if God fights himself) or

"No, God didn't cause the tsunami. He's in heaven weeping along with us." As if God is sitting in heaven saying, "If I only had the power to stop these things" or "Oops that thunderbolt got away from me, sorry down there!" (!!?)

These false pastor know nothing, nothing, about Gods judgments. They can't believe that He would direct them at them! because they believe that He wants them healthy, wealthy, and prosperous; that He would never chasten or test them! To be sure, when they are tried, they will fall away in droves, get hungry, curse his name, and take the mark of the beast!

Hi There,

You should check-out this book: "Eye to Eye: Facing the Consuquences of Dividing Israel", by Bill Koenig...It can be bought on the author's website, www.watch.org.

I have included a cut-and-paste from the website, the book's introduction. I have just finished the book. A Very illuminating read!

Rebecca
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Introduction

In Eye to Eye - Facing the Consequences of Dividing Israel you will read about the biblical history of the land of Israel.

You will read about the many wars Israel has fought to preserve her homeland.

You will see how the doctrinal error of Replacement Theology has led to 19 centuries of Jewish persecution, anti-Semitism, and the flawed “land for peace” process.

You will read what happens the same day or within 24 hours of Israel being pressured to divide her land. Here are a few examples found in these pages:

There were 29 record-setting catastrophes or major events during President George H.W. Bush and President Bill Clinton's presidencies, a period of 12 years.

There were 28 record-setting catastrophes or major events during President George W. Bush's first 55 months in office.

There were eight periods of disruption in the United States following the 9-11 terror events from October 1, 2001 to January 9, 2004 when President George W. Bush attempted to divide Israel's land.

Europe began experiencing its hottest summer in 500 years and record-setting weather the week the Quartet's Road Map was delivered in 2003.

There were 31 major suicide bombings in Israel from December 1, 2001 to November 10, 2004, that occurred at the same time President George W. Bush or one of his top-level staff and/or one of Israel's top officials were working with the U.S. on either a cease-fire agreement, a peace deal, publicly stating Israel's approval of a Palestinian state, or Israel was about to evacuate property.

The book also documents what happened to previous American Presidents (beginning with the Presidency of Woodrow Wilson to the present), Israeli Prime Ministers and Middle East leaders who were actively involved with the land of Israel, or the Middle East peace process during their time in office and/or afterwards.

Eye to Eye is a profound example that the God of Israel is very serious about His covenant land and that those who continue to pressure Israel to divide her land will experience even greater consequences.

Back Cover

What do these major-record setting events have in common?

# The ten costliest insurance events in U.S. history
# The twelve costliest hurricanes in U.S. history
# Three of the four largest tornado outbreaks in U.S. history
# The two largest terrorism events in U.S. history

All of these major catastrophes and many others occurred or began on the very same day or within 24-hours of U.S. presidents Bush, Clinton and Bush applying pressure on Israel to trade her land for promises of "peace and security," sponsoring major "land for peace" meetings, making major public statements pertaining to Israel's covenant land and /or calling for a Palestinian state.

Are each one of these major record-setting events just a coincidence or awe-inspiring signs that God is actively involved in the affairs of Israel? In this book, Bill Koenig provides undeniable facts and conclusive evidence showing that indeed the leaders of the United States and the world are on a collision course with God over Israel's covenant land.

"And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem?" (Zechariah 12:9)

Thanks Rebecca,
Yeah, I've read about Koenigs book and I'm in complete agreement on his findings. I plan to buy his book soon.

Another interesting thing to come out of the 700 club is their slogan-
"when disaster strikes, Operation Blessing is there to strike back!"
Strike back at who? God?

They give the glory to God for the work He does thru them in comforting the afflicted, but deny that He did the afflicting. This is a great shame.
For God does say that "I will smite and heal"

Without the tsunami they would have not had the oportunity to minister to a unbroken and hateful people to begin with.

Truly the 700 club knows nothing about God's nature.

And now a US senator is suing God for the disasters He is sending and threatening to send on the earth.

Isn't it amazing that this wicked man has more knowledge of God's wrath than the average pastor?
These false pastors seem baffled at the weather and in the same breath declare that "God is in control". Which is it?

It seems this senator, who leaves the senate chamber during prayers, knows and hates God. But I think there is more hope for him than those who keep silent about God's wrath and judgment, and claim to be His servants.

I'd like to offer to represent God in court in this matter.
I'd offer to settle out of court on the condition that the US stop-
1. Dividing the State if Israel
2. Child Sacrifice- (abortion) 45 million and counting
3. the removal of God's holy name from public square
4. promoting the Laodecian church
5. ................oh, never mind. These are like the days of Noah and Lot. May God send judgment on this wicked country!

One example of this is the 700 clubs Pat Robertson who has repeatingly called these things-
Wicked Weather
Weird Weather
EVEN GIVING THE GLORY TO THE PAGAN GODDESS, MOTHER NATURE!


what pagan god?  mother nature to me is a figure of speech

you think every disaster is from God? can you prove that?

alot of it haves to do with how humans beings treated earth by put trash into oceans potlution in the air. Most of it is our fault.

Be careful Prophet Danial....

Who afllicted Job?
Job said the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away...but he said that in ignorance...we don't have that luxury....we know who tries to steal and destroy.
  True God may permit certain events and calamatirs(I will smite) but God doesn't go against himself.   Satan is the destroyer who attempts to oppress,steal,destroy and everyone you included apparently accuse God.  An act of God everyone says instead of placing the blame where it belongs....On Satan  

Did Satan destroy Sodom?
Did Satan send the Flood?

Job didn't speak in ignorance, he knew that even when God sends satan it is His will being done. When God rebuked Job and his friends, he never once mentions satan's foul name, was God speaking in ignorance?

When Elijah prayed to stop the rain, did he pray to satan?
Will the 2 prophets of Rev control the weather by satans power?

Read your bible, esp. the old testaments and you'll see that God controls all these things, they are His weapons or wrath.

The Disciples spoke of Christ when they saw him calm the storm-
Who is this man? That even the wind and rain obey him?

If he can calm the storm, he can surely send one!

Surely God is soveriegn however questioning His methods and motives as to whether He sent a storm in judgement or mercy is beyond us. Joseph said God meant it for good. Obviously his cup was half full.