Ask these two questions back to back, for starters:
When Nachmanides debated on the points of whether or not Jesus was messhiach, why did he never deny, but rather affirmed, Jesus right to "kingship" by genealogy in that great debate before the King of Spain?
Therefore, if Nachmanides AFFIRMED the genealogy, why do you contradict him?
Also, in the debate about His mother being a virgin, you may want to look at:
http://forums.jewsforjesus.org/showthrea...578#pid578
In that first post, I identify the prophecy from Jeremiah dealing with he who was His guardian who married His mother, prophesied also to watch over He who was the source of living waters identified earlier in Jeremiah in 2:13 and 17:13. Thus, this Jeremiah prophecy, like Micah 5:2, is self contained within the book.
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(A post posting addendum)
In A.D. 1263, just prior to the Spanish Inquisition, there was a debate in Barcelona, before the King of Spain, between his two most trusted advisors. One advisor was one of the three most powerful men in the Spanish government, Moses Nachmanides, a Spanish Jew, who was noble - well respected - and accountable to only the King himself. The other was “Pablo Christiani”, a Christianized Jew, appearing at that time as an emissary of the Vatican.
In this debate, 3 questions were argued over:
1) Did the Messiah come as Jesus, or is He still yet to come;
2) Is the Messiah actually G-D, or is he to be just a man only; and
3) Who practices the more perfect interpretation of the Law, Jews or Christians?
Nachmanides argued to the effect that Jesus claims to be the Messiah were authentic, but that the issue was not to be decided on his ancestry that tied him to King David, etc.
Nachmanides said the issue was whether Messiah, or any Messiah for that matter, was G-D. Nachmanides committed abomination [“toeba” - toeh ata ba, “you are erring in this way”: Nedarim 51a] in his ignorance of Isaiah 7:14, Lamentations 4:20, I Samuel 2:10 with Zechariah 14:9, etc.
Further, he was of a mind that, since Isaiah 2:4 had not been fulfilled right away after Jesus’ entry to Jerusalem, and that he was personally ignorant of any change in the character of the world since that time, why should he believe?
But G-D answered Nachmanides in His time: with the spread of the Bible from the priests and elite to the common man in the coming centuries, so too did the spread of Christianity birth the Renaissance, the era of Ideological, Scientific, and Religious Enlightenment. It was through Christianity that the Kingdom of G-D was made near to mankind, and changed the faces of whole civilizations. Isaiah 2:4 is saved until after the heavens roll up like a scroll, and Zechariah 12:10, 13:1 - 14:4 is fulfilled, in which 2/3rds of all Jews upon the face of the Earth are slaughtered, and YHVeH the Great KING Himself delivers them as their Messiah.
Nachmanides’ answers, at this debate, have been championed by Judaizers worldwide as the counter argument to Christianity. But at the time, they acknowledged Jesus Davidic lineage and right to the Throne of Israel.
He gravely erred in stating to the effect that he did not believe in a Divine Messiah, contrary to this very expression of YHVeH Messiah in the Scriptures. Hannah calls Messiah by the name “Yeshuat” in 1 Samuel 2:1, whom she identifies as Messiah the king in verse 10. “Yeshuat” is the future designation in the Hebrew “Yeshua”, of “Jesus who is to come”.
In Lamentations 4:20, we see that Nachmanides was living in the shadow of YHVeH Messiah (Jesus Christ) among the nations.
In Psalm 118:14, we see that “YHVeH is my strength and my song, and is become my Yeshua [Jesus].”
He is the Right Hand of Power of the Song of Moses (Psalm 118:15-16).
“YHVeH is my strength and my song, and He is become my Jesus -- He is my GOD, and I will prepare Him a place to live; my father’s G-D, and I will exalt him”(Exodus 15:2).
Therefore, Nachmanides was torn as one who sought to deny the Deity of Jesus, and his identity as YHVeH Messiah, while yet confirming His rightful lineage as but a mortal being. As demonstrated here, his argument still did greatly err.
The Inquisition followed this debate, and Jews were forced to either convert to Roman Catholicism, or be tortured and persecuted. It was from this time that the Jews called themselves as either of a Sephardi (Spanish -- though an earlier first use meant "Assyrian" exile) or Ashkenazi (German) descent.
This is most curious, as it does not denote their particular tribal affiliations, be it Reuben or Judah or Levi (etc.), but of where they had been dwelling among two Gentile lands in the 13th Century A.D. In fact, when they had lost their sense of who they were, they ever after then blamed the Christian Gentiles to which they chose to dwell as foreigners amongst, for the loss of their identity.
But it was also hidden from their conscience, by omission in rabbinic teachings, that to seek to deny even one fulfilled Bible prophecy given to the Fathers and the Prophets (in order to deny Jesus), is already a stance and predetermined opposition to the very same GOD they seek to affirm. This too, is why they were scattered, in accordance to the forewarnings of Deuteronomy 28:14, 37, 64-66.
We are, as Gentiles, to show kindness unto them, and to lead them back to their G-D, and if need be, by means of a jealousy toward their own faith, which we have come to know through their King and Messiah, YHVeH. For it is through the nation and people of Israel, that G-D Himself has ordained, as the instruments through which the nations be blessed, teaching of the Seed (singular): Messiah (Genesis 23:18, 3:15).
The greatest evangelical effort for "Christianity" will be from 144,000 Jews from 12 tribes of Israel, with signs and wonders and authority and zeal, preaching and teaching every nation of Jesus Christ the first 3 1/2 years of the Tribulation...after the Enochian Rapture, but only up to the Elijahn Rapture...though many of these may be martyred for Christ Jesus in the process during that time. Shalom.
