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Hi I am new here and I am a Christian, I am thinking of converting to Judaism, can I convert and still accept Christ as my savior?

As a Christian allready, you know that Jesus came to fulfill prophesy, not to change the law.

I am going to give you probably a politcally incorrect answer...

If you want a completely JEWISH conversion (aka without any references to Jesus...), go to a reform synagogue. Keep your faith in Jesus to yourself and the Rabbi will most likely won't ask. When you face your bet din, it will be with just one Rabbi (your teacher and two lay people most likely) not with three Rabbis like the other branches within Judaism (orthodox, conservative). You will not be forced to give a denounciation of Jesus as part your conversion, so policy is "don't ask, don't tell".  The study is typically, one introduction to Judaism class, meetings with the Rabbi for one year. Mikvah in Reform is optional.  Trust me, the Rabbi will just be flattered that it matters to you!

If this feels too deceptive, or their ethical teachings are to different from Jesus', then just go to a Messianic synagogue.

That is it... The point is, your spirituality and choice is YOURS. You interpret it as you want. Either way, you're a Jewish-Christian. Don't let someone say to you, that you're not jewish because you lack the mythical 'bloodline' or didn't grow up with their own version of 'stigmata' (you know what I'm saying..). If you want it as part of your spirituality, no one has a right to 'hoard' it from you.  You can be Jewish and Christian if you want to be at the same time.

Dear Christian-Jew,

Christians are the true Jews, the true sons and daughters of Abraham. The apostle Paul wrote, "For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God" (Romans 2:28-29).

Christian-Jew, if you have a Messianic synogouge or Messianic Congregation. I would advice you to join it. Especcially if it is part of the MJAA (even though I teach Two-house) I support this group really well. If you cannot find a Messianic synogouge, and you want to honor Shabbat and honor your roots. Go to a Jewish Synagogue and attend a Church that teaches Messiah on Sundays. Can you be Jewish and keep your faith in Yeshua. Absolutely.

No you cannot...if you convert to Judaism you agree to accept it's
beliefs, and Jsus is not among them. You could be deceptive and
not mention your belief in Jsus, or sidestep the issue if raised.
But is this how you would want to adopt a new religion, by being
deceptive? And the conversion would be a sham, since you would
not be giving up your previous beliefs. And would you want others
to break Jewish law by counting you towards a minyon, or to the
Torah,if they were not aware that you had not relinquished your
previous beliefs, and there for had an invalid conversion?
And lastly, would you even be satisfied with a Reform Conversion?

Sheitl,
You obviously didn't read the other posts. You can convert to Messianic Judaism, and Jesus was Jewish.

Hello, no she was specificaly asking about converting to Judaism.
She did not mention messianic Judaism, and the responders have
also understood the question the way I have, from their answers
Having spoken to messianics, both born Jews and gentiles, the
general consensus is that you cannot convert to messianic
Judasim, that you are "grafted in" and conversion is not necessary.
The born Jews seem to be most adament about that..however I
also realize the messianics do not have a central governing body
and can pretty much make policy as they choose, and I am sure it
varies by congregation..

Sheitl, you have not read the Bible, have you? This includes the Torah all the way to Revelation in the Brit Chaddasha. The Church has a central governing body, and the head is Christ. Then, in every branch, it's checks and balances between a pastor, elders, and deacons. Then the members at large, including deacons and elders, hold each other accountable and worship together as they help each other grow in Christ.

The NT is irrelevant to me...most messianics I have spoken with agree that there is no central governing body, and therefore no agreed upon halahcah that they follow. And from what I have seen, most of them
would not agree with your statement above...they seem to separate
themselves from mainstream Christianity, and to not look upon
deacons, elders or pastors to make such decisions. They actually
seem to "look down" upon mainstream Christians, and seek to
convert them to a messianic lifestyle...it all seems very strange to
me.
But putting that aside, what does that have to do with people
trying to convert to "messianic judaism"?