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There is a certain movement sweeping through and making people two fold children of hell. its called easy believism. what this is, is walking up to a person and saying "hey! wanna go to heaven?" of course they're not going to say no. then repeat after me!! afterwards they are told congradulations!! your saved!!  they arent saved, they are still damned to hell. Jesus described salvation as a birth. being "born again". A seed has to be planted. the seed is the Word. (1 Peter 1:23) A person has to realize they are lost and undone without Christ!! No conviction, no salvation!! (John 6:44)

A person has to realize they are lost and undone without Christ!! No conviction, no salvation!! (John 6:44)


I think most try to do that. bring up their past make them face their sin face to face at least I hope so.

that how I tell the gospel I first bring up their sins.  i want to see if they are truly conviction.

If they are then I ask them to pray with me. note salvation does not stop with prayer if we truly are sinncer we will follows what Christ had command us to do.

what I mean we have to go 100% sold out to Christ not 50% but 100

so what your saying is, you believe in a "works salvation"?

No I just do not believe going 50% to God and not the full 100%'


Let mne ask yiu a question.


would you doubt somomesalvation if the only thing they want to do is get saved then just kick back doing nothing?

I am just saying I think it wrong to come to salvation just to be saved and kick back.


We have responablilty and we must do  our part that comes with salvation.

faith without works are dead.

I just believe if somone is true then they would try to the best of their abillilty to do what Christ command us to do.


Jesus said if you love me then do what I say,

the holy spirit is our leader we must listen to him not just push him aside.

I do not believe salvation is of works but I do believe true slavation having truly christ being trully change that it seklf would put  the desire to do what he says.