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The evidence in the Tanakh, especially when compared to the Brit Chadashah, says that Yeshua ben-Yosef is really Yeshua-YHWH-HaBen vi ben-YHWH. For example, Avraham had faith that was credited to him as righteousness. Miryam was an "almah"- a young woman- as though she were without blemish. Why? Because she, also a "betulah", had faith as Avraham's; credited to her as righteousness.

Besides the verses concerning Avraham in Genesis, Romans, etc.; look at the verses concerning Elohim in Genesis 1-3. Line them up with the verses concerning the Angel (notice "Angel", not "angel") of the Lord in Genesis (i.e., Yaakov meeting the Angel), Exodus, and Judges.

Also look at the other evidence of the Tanakh in the Brit Chadashah, including the biographies of Hevel and Kayin. Who offered up a lamb (faith) and was killed; who offered fruit (dead works)?
while im reading
i understand "betulah" means virgin and "almah" a young woman
question is this, what are you getting at ?
and i assume "Hevel and Kayin" is reference to Cain and Abel
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while im reading
i understand "betulah" means virgin and "almah" a young woman
question is this, what are you getting at ?
and i assume "Hevel and Kayin" is reference to Cain and Abel


Remember the "almah v. betulah" controversy. "Almah" can still be in light of "virgin", because even though "almah" became "virgin" (like "betulah") in Greek, Miryam bat-Eli was as though she was a spiritual virgin, unblemished by sin, as an "almah" (young woman) because of her faith.

P.S. I use the Hebrew names to relate more to the non-Messianic Jews on here. Jewish and Gentile Christians wouldn't care if I use the Hebrew or "gentilized" versions.
actually wasnt aware of any controversy
and actually i prefer the Hebrew ( original context ),  the more times something gets translated the more it loses some of it original meaning
eg: NIV and the Street Bible and factors in regards to the Copyright Conditions

however im getting to grips with the Language  
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