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What a shame that Rowan Williams doesn't base his beliefs upon the Bible, which explains why he finds Christian Zionist views as "very strange, and not at all easy to accept."

Rowan's rants against Christian Zionism included an attack on the special relationship between the United States and Israel, deriding "the chosen-nation myth of America, meaning that what happens in America is very much at the heart of God's purpose for humanity."

If Williams read and believed the Bible, without traditional blinders, he would see that the nation and People of Israel (all Twelve Tribes of Israel) are instrumental in God's plan of salvation for all mankind. The Bible is an ethnocentric book, with a focus on the family of Jacob-Israel, however politically-incorrect...

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David,
He never had it.
He knows full well what he is doing. We all know who he serves. Satan.
Daniel
I am not surprized because in most seminaries they don't believe the Bible is the word of God.  So, aside from the fact that he is probably not even born again, this is the main problem.  I mean, the average guy in the street who goes to church twice a year believes the Bible more than many of these church officials with Phds.  They have educated themselves into unbelief.  I don't know if Rowan Williams is like that but that is my guess so you can pray that he will believe the Bible is God's word and mabye even for him to be born again if thats what his problem is.
David Ben-Ariel Wrote:

....included an attack on the special relationship between the United States and Israel, deriding "the chosen-nation myth of America, meaning that what happens in America is very much at the heart of God's purpose for humanity."

The following was reported just a couple or so days ago; I am confident Rowan is completely off his head!

The Archbishop of Canterbury has launched a stinging attack on America, comparing it unfavourably with the British Empire at its peak.

Dr Rowan Williams condemned America for moving on from Iraq and leaving others to "put it back together".

In an interview with a Muslim lifestyle magazine the head of the Church of England also attacked modern society, saying parts of Western culture "eat away at the soul".
The Archbishop said America's attempts to accumulate influence and control around the world were "not working".

America in Iraq had tried a "short burst of violent action" in an attempt to "clear the decks", he said.

In comparison, Britain in India had "poured in resources" to try and normalise the country.

He told a magazine: "We have only one global hegemonic power. It is not accumulating territory: it is trying to accumulate influence and control. That's not working. It is one thing to take over a territory and then pour energy and resources in to administering it and normalising it.

"Rightly or wrongly, that's what the British Empire did - in India, for example.
"It is another thing to go in on the assumption that a quick burst of violent action will somehow clear the decks and that you can move on and other people will put it back together - Iraq, for example."

He went on: "Our modern Western definition of humanity is clearly not working very well. There is something about Western modernity which really does eat away at the soul."


(source AOL News online)

I think this critique of American foriegn policy is unfair.  It is missing the concept that you can with the physical war but not the world view warfare.  Islam is like an old perfectly adapted allegator compared to lets say Nazism.  Sure, the Nazi world view was shattered by the allied victory.  It wasn't a very coherent system to begin with.  But Islam is a different story.  The average Iraqi, not a terrorist by any means, believes that all the world, even America will one day be under Sharia law.  They perfected the art of passive agression under Sadam.  That is their reaction to our authoritarian military.  They do what we say but they mess it up, like the million dollar police station with sweage dripping from the ceiling.

Bush was right, this did turn out to be like world war two, but we are the authoritarian ones with an awsome military that is quagmired with spinning wheels, all because we can't sell our bag of ideology to people who are more religious than we are.  There are actually people on earth who think their religion and self respect is more important than a booming economy.

It is wrong what the guy said. We sent tons of cash. It is not clearing the decks.  East indians are not the same as devout Muslims.
DavidJ Wrote:

[quote=David Ben-Ariel]
....included an attack on the special relationship between the United States and Israel, deriding "the chosen-nation myth of America, meaning that what happens in America is very much at the heart of God's purpose for humanity."

The following was reported just a couple or so days ago; I am confident Rowan is completely off his head!

The Archbishop of Canterbury has launched a stinging attack on America, comparing it unfavourably with the British Empire at its peak.

Dr Rowan Williams condemned America for moving on from Iraq and leaving others to "put it back together".

In an interview with a Muslim lifestyle magazine the head of the Church of England also attacked modern society, saying parts of Western culture "eat away at the soul".
The Archbishop said America's attempts to accumulate influence and control around the world were "not working".

America in Iraq had tried a "short burst of violent action" in an attempt to "clear the decks", he said.

In comparison, Britain in India had "poured in resources" to try and normalise the country.

He told a magazine: "We have only one global hegemonic power. It is not accumulating territory: it is trying to accumulate influence and control. That's not working. It is one thing to take over a territory and then pour energy and resources in to administering it and normalising it.

"Rightly or wrongly, that's what the British Empire did - in India, for example.
"It is another thing to go in on the assumption that a quick burst of violent action will somehow clear the decks and that you can move on and other people will put it back together - Iraq, for example."

He went on: "Our modern Western definition of humanity is clearly not working very well. There is something about Western modernity which really does eat away at the soul."


David- Unfortunately he is right about the US being the modern Roman/British Empire. He is also right about western society being poisonous. HE IS DEAD WRONG about the house of Israel and replacement theology.-Daniel
I wonder what course in Divinity School or what experience equipped the head of the Anglican Church to make pronouncements on Geopolitics? I should have taken that course of study. Maybe then I could be an archbishop in the Baptist church.

Somehow I don't think he came to that position by divine revelation Cheesygrin
David- Unfortunately he is right about the US being the modern Roman/British Empire. He is also right about western society being poisonous. HE IS DEAD WRONG about the house of Israel and replacement theology.-Daniel
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Unfortunatly your wrong about Us being modern Roman Empire....that is Europe in all its current glory only awaiting for Russia and US to be destroyed when the Ezekial Prophecy comes to pass which will be any time now...
   US is now the equivelant of the British Empire in that currently it is a stronger nation than some of it enemies but the way things are going there the US is currently in its decline...Russia is going to go for one last hurrah then you will see the rise of the EUC as the World Power.
   It is possible that the current talks between Palistinians and Israel may be that pact the AC endorses which makes Israel say "Peace and Safety"....they used those very words last week in Annapolis.    
You know I was thinking that the SPIRIT of the thing can change places.  Like the young Bablyon spirit moved from Babylon to the statue of liberty pedestal in Zechariah 5:5ff.  Just cause you say America is Babylon doesn't mean that spirit can't move to Rome before the end times are over with.  Babylon and Rome were both the eagle.  I am not advocateing blowing up the statue of liberty or anything like that.  I am just saying the "American dream" in its most egotistical form is a paganistic Amillinial mixture of Chrisianity and Anglo Israelism resultion in a theological Disney world.  Is social security really going to "last forever" as president Bush promises?

2 words- Pax Americana
There are US troops in over 100 foreign countries worldwide, including ancient babylon (Iraq), Saudi Arabia(!), Turkey, all former Roman territories, and Italy itself.
even in many former Soviet Countries.
In reality, the US led nato alliance makes the British empire seem rather puny.

There are many others who are noting the parallels to Rome in America, including it's decadence just prior to it's decline. I forget the name of the book, but someone just wrote one called somthing like "are we Rome?" Check it yourselves, ye blind!
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