I notice a fight scene pattern. The arrows point to who the blame is on; the two or more names are who are fighting.
DavidJ ----> Mariner
Tanachreader <----> Baptistic
Brianroy and revelation320 ----> dynamicphilospher
shlomo, prophet, david, and AsherMaccabee <---- A good majority of people on this forum; including some mentioned
I notice a fight scene pattern. The arrows point to who the blame is on; the two or more names are who are fighting.
shlomo, prophet, david, and AsherMaccabee <---- A good majority of people on this forum; including some mentioned
I can't speak for shlomo ,davie or AsherMaccabee but from the posts I've seen the fight IF that is the right word seems to be mostly coming from YOU.
In a diverse forum as this we won't all have the same opinion,interpretation nor will we always agree....having said that the only person on this forum who is into name calling is again YOU.
I don't always agree with Shlomo but I respect his opinion,I don't always agree with Craig...and I tell him so and he isn't shy coming the other way. If I think its foolish to add grandfather to the "trinity" is say so as I notice have a few others besides me.
Why don't you just grow up....stop with dumb post like this...put forward you scripture...try to read ALL of it not just part of it and say VIOLA that proves it. e.g John 1:1 proves trinity...my answer? Johm 1:1,14 proves Jesus is Father,Son and Holy Ghost...1 Person.
So let's forget the who fight who...You've done more name calling on this site than anyone.
Judge Not LEST YE BE JUDGED. and if Jesus didn't come to Judge but to bring sinners to the knowledge of God then who EXACTLY are you to judge me or anyone else?
I notice a fight scene pattern. The arrows point to who the blame is on; the two or more names are who are fighting.
DavidJ ----> Mariner
Tanachreader <----> Baptistic
Brianroy and revelation320 ----> dynamicphilospher
shlomo, prophet, david, and AsherMaccabee <---- A good majority of people on this forum; including some mentioned
Other than this is just your opinion, what is the point of a post like this?
What positive does it accomplish? Of what good is it?
Other than this is just your opinion, what is the point of a post like this?
What positive does it accomplish? Of what good is it?
- Some of the posts are becoming part of back-and-forth arguments and fights.
- A house divided will fall.
- I'm observing that if we keep fighting instead of just arguing points, we may fall.
- Some of the posts are becoming part of back-and-forth arguments and fights.
- A house divided will fall.
- I'm observing that if we keep fighting instead of just arguing points, we may fall.
Have you not considered that some of this so called 'fighting' may in fact be spiritual warfare? For the benifit of our Roman Catholic friends who we love very much but who we struggle with, I quote the Roman Catholic Bible ....
".... our struggle is not against blood and flesh, but against principalities, against authorities, against the universal lords of this darkness, against spiritual power of wickedness in the heavenlies." (Ephesians 6:12 Douay-Rheims Bible)
DavidJ
Have you not considered that some of this so called 'fighting' may in fact be spiritual warfare? For the benifit of our Roman Catholic friends who we love very much but who we struggle with, I quote the Roman Catholic Bible ....
".... our struggle is not against blood and flesh, but against principalities, against authorities, against the universal lords of this darkness, against spiritual power of wickedness in the heavenlies." (Ephesians 6:12 Douay-Rheims Bible)
DavidJ
Very good point; but I also pointed out the anti-Trinitarians who are not Roman Catholic, and some others.
Have you not considered that some of this so called 'fighting' may in fact be spiritual warfare? For the benifit of our Roman Catholic friends who we love very much but who we struggle with, I quote the Roman Catholic Bible ....
".... our struggle is not against blood and flesh, but against principalities, against authorities, against the universal lords of this darkness, against spiritual power of wickedness in the heavenlies." (Ephesians 6:12 Douay-Rheims Bible)
DavidJ
Very good point; but I also pointed out the anti-Trinitarians who are not Roman Catholic, and some others.
You mean like us Jews who take God literally when he says HE IS ONE and that there is NONE BESIDE HIM....and that there is NO SAVIOUR BESIDE HIM.....We who believe God is our Saviour and that He is Jesus and that God dwelt with us as a man and shared our infirmities? That he came HIMSELF? Give it a rest...we discuss different interpretation of scripture....some we all agree with...some we don't.....but NOBODY has total understanding of scripture especially you who attacks people mainly because you can't support your own view.
God says to forgive.....so I forgive your slanders and name calling but if I were someone who wasn't a Christian and you were my example of Christ....i still wouldn't be a Christian fortunatly you weren't the first Christian I met.
When there is a fight there are opponents. The question here seems to be; are these opponents spiritual opponents or theological opponants?
For example, my understanding of scripture is that Adam was not the first human. Your understanding of scripture is that Adam was the first human and we literally fight over who is right and who is wrong. Neverthess we are both saved because we both believe in The Lord Jesus Christ as our Lord and only Saviour. I do not believe this kind of 'fight' is spiritual warfare - it is theological difference. We both end up in Glory! Believing God three in one or God as One per se is not how we obtain or loose our salvation.
The other example is, my understanding is that my salvation is by fatih alone, not by works, in Jesus Christ according to the Bible and The Bible alone. Your understanding is that salvation is obtained through praying to Mary for salvation of the soul. That is spiritual warfare because if you win me over I loose my eternal life in the presence of God.
Anyway that is my take on it.
DavidJ
When there is a fight there are opponents. The question here seems to be; are these opponents spiritual opponents or theological opponants?
For example, my understanding of scripture is that Adam was not the first human. Your understanding of scripture is that Adam was the first human and we literally fight over who is right and who is wrong. Neverthess we are both saved because we both believe in The Lord Jesus Christ as our Lord and only Saviour. I do not believe this kind of 'fight' is spiritual warfare - it is theological difference. We both end up in Glory! Believing God three in one or God as One per se is not how we obtain or loose our salvation.
So, Jesus was the first human, you would then argue? That does make sense.
The other example is, my understanding is that my salvation is by fatih alone, not by works, in Jesus Christ according to the Bible and The Bible alone. Your understanding is that salvation is obtained through praying to Mary for salvation of the soul. That is spiritual warfare because if you win me over I loose my eternal life in the presence of God.
You don't believe in eternal security?
Anyway that is my take on it.
DavidJ
So, Jesus was the first human, you would then argue? That does make sense.
I do not agree.
You don't believe in eternal security?
Yes I most certainly do; for those who who are in Christ Jesus.
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I was actually being hypothetical (maybe that is the word I sould have used insead of "for example".
DavidJ