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Pardon me,
    but you are getting quite alot of spam by "rubber room" people.  How about a new section called "Rubber Room", "Wild and Crazy", "Dark side of the Moon" or something along those lines?

    I could name names, and about 50 posts that could quickly be placed in such a category.  I perceive these posts of such insanity are done by people who are really crazy, messed up and on drugs,  or by cynics trying to flood the Forum Message Community with spam that their favorite rabbinic sites would never tolerate.  Primarily 3 names would get the biggest axe.  

   If you wish, simply censor out the wild and zany, disingenuous, threads..and make them disappear.  It would increase respect and credibility among visitors, in my opinion. Thanks.  

Amen; and I'll name one name: Chava (Sheitl Queen). I am getting frustrated and tired with Chava being a self-hating, anti-goyim, anti-Christian, persecuting "Jewish" woman; and she has slandered me several times.

In theory, Brianroy's idea is a good one.

However, it is hard enough for moderators to keep up with us. If they had to read and decide where to put things, it would become too frustrating for them, too time intensive for everyone, and too confusing for us when posts show up in places we did not intend them. In addition, the best feature of J4J is that they don't edit or overly moderate our posts, as other forums do. The rubber room should only be for people who have wacky ideas and want to share them there voluntarily.

I agree the forum is getting "stranger," but administrator action is not the answer (true Republican speaking). Can the common folks come up with a solution that the administrators can live with? Can we do something to shut down unacceptable postings?

For example, can we create, apart from but with the blessing of J4J, a criteria for acceptable postings and then moderate it ourselves? For unacceptable postings, we could have a standard warning that refers the abuser to the acceptable criteria. And then after so many warnings, we could, by group consent, ask J4J to ban the person. This would avoid J4J being the bad guy, and allow people who might just be troubled the time and ability to learn our social norms. In addition, J4J would retain all its rights and responsibilities for moderating individual posts as they do now, but still allow us to "clean up" the discussion area. I am not for banning anyone who is not of the body of Christ, but I think Paul makes a great case for respected and anointed members of a "church" disciplining its other members. Due to the nature of God's Spirit, J4J is essentially a "church," since 2 or more are coming together in His Name. Anyone who claims Christ would then come under the authority of these respected members.

Instead of having a rubber room, perhaps we could have a room where members could debate and discuss the happenings in other rooms. J4J could ask four or five of us--these should be all or mostly Messianic Jews--who they trust to become "trustees" with one trustee designated to speak to the moderators officially about trustee decisions. Moderators wouldn't make any changes until they saw from postings in the room that all trustees agreed and that the designated trustee made an official call to action. The room should be open for all members to communicate in and make their opinions heard by the trustees.

I'm sure someone else can think of something better and less . . . organized, for lack of a better word.

But you are right, Brianroy. This is becoming a problem that could make J4J, and more importantly, Christ look bad to unsaved visitors.

Can we say "hypocrite"? Just what do you think you are doing here?
Besides, unless this site has suddenly developed an audio component,
it is not "slander", which is spoken defamation.

I love the terminology, LOL!
But is this really spam-ie, flooding all kinds of sites with the same
post-or are they just bizarro thread topics?



I agree with you.....perhaps threads that have no responses should
be eliminated, as either they are as you say "zany", or simply ones
that people have no interest in discussing.
Other than that, how would you suggest getting a consensus on
what constitute these wild and zany threads?

I don't want to side track the thread, but this caught my eye.
Since I am used to dealing with minyons, 10 adult men, I am
curious as to how two people coming together constitute a church.
many thanks.

I'm not being a hypocrite. I did a whole post where I bolded out just how many times my claim is proven true; both with anti-Messianic bias and anti-goyim (maybe even anti-African-American) bias.

By the way, here's my explanation for the "maybe":, "self-hating Jew" and "Uncle Tom" both imply- true or not- a self-hatred; so, Chava, know what you're talking about. "Uncle Tom" is used to call African-Americans "uh-oh oreos"; so "Uncle Tom" carries that same (but undeserved) connotation for African-Americans as "self-hating Jew" does for a Jewish person; and Messianic Jewish people do not deserve that term, unlike you've implied.

So, I'm going to ask you to stop spinning and drinking the Kool Aid; and to start either being open to JFJ and Messianic Jewish and gentile people, or going your spin zones and leaving JFJ alone.

Goy,
   you need to (please)  calm down in regard to Chava...and keep on topic...okay?    

Let me show a couple of posts of what I meant earlier:


Chad Higgins: when leadin a post on " Eze. 1:16" writes -
“I think Ezekeil 1 is about gas clouds in space, the amber and stuff explodeing and hitting him and he had sores all over him 2:6 that felt like sitting on a scorpion.”

As Cchiggins, he boasts: “One of these days I am going to go beyond shocking you and get you mad thinking I am a heretic maybe.”

On Joel 2:31, Chad Higgins then writes as if a schizophrenic committed to a mental institution(see last above quote) saying:

In 1916 there was a lunar eclipse the day they caught the shark that inspired the movie Jaws....  But it converges with 2 baby killer whales who left their familly pod groups in the fall of 2001 and showed up in inland bodys of water.  The exact day is secret I understand.  911?  They came from pods separated by thousands of miles so this was a real freak.

Luna eventually got killed, thus a moon turned to blood.

Springer was put back with his pod the same callendar day of the Lunar eclipse of 1916 where the shark was SPRINGING into the boat.

So there you have it, "Jaws" and "__________" [you fill in the blank]  simply don't mix.  But be he some kind of a nut, or a fiercely hating anti-Christian Jew or someone of the "supremecist" or " militant pro-homosexual" sets trying to flood this site with ordure, I really don't care about their motives, only their defiling results.  

We may live in a society that blesses schizophrenia with being "cool" (which what form of expression most rap music is),...but we also should have the right to disagree, before the right to disagree becomes outlawed by some quack or corrupt liberal judge or legislature as an illegal form of prejudice.

I, therefore, speak freely that "simply because evil {cf., Gr. - kakos} is accepted, it doesn't make it suddenly morally right."  And it is the Bible that defines for us what is "evil" and what is "righteousified".   Chad's posts arethe literary equivalent of having children invited to jump in a 3 foot high cow patty because there's no pile of leaves for them to jump into, and then justifying the act as perfectly normal.  G-D help us!

Because Jesus said "Whenever two or three are gathered in my name, there I am in the midst of them." Matthew 18:20.

I did go too far; but I will not allow Chava to label Messianic Jewish people as "self-hating"; nor will I allow her to deny that "Uncle Tom" carries the same weight for an African-American as "self-hating Jew" does for a Jewish person, whether that reputation is deserved or not. Like I have stated earlier, as Michael Steele does not deserve an "Uncle Tom" reputation, Messianic Jewish people do not deserve to be called "self-hating."

The people who really deserve to be called such are, respective to the terms, those like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton (who clearly think that racism against whites, Jewish people, and/or Greeks is okay); and those like George Soros, Alan Colmes, and Chava (who are clearly anti-Messianic, anti-Israel (because the complete Israel is Messianic), and/or anti-goyim (like Chava)).

Another reason that I am saying all this, by the way, is that I know that there are African-American people who are Jewish, and African-Jewish people in every other country.