Goy:
I think I've proven myself to be someone who cares very much about Jews. But I think it's pretty much a given that Jews have extra works they call commentaries. I don't see any reason why "commentaries of the Jew" would be anti-semitic. The extra books are commentaries, and it is the Jews who write and read them for religious reasons. I also think its clear from context that I was referring to non-believing Jews.
"But I think it's pretty much a given that Jews have extra works they call commentaries. I don't see any reason why "commentaries of the Jew" would be anti-semitic. The extra books are commentaries, and it is the Jews who write and read them for religious reasons."
Let's break this down:
1. You say that
Jews have extra works. Not all Jewish people do; or why else are some Jewish people Messianic instead of Talmudist?
2. "commentaries of the Jew" should be more like "commentaries of the [or some] Jewish people"
3. Not all Jewish people write or read Talmudist commentaries.
4. The context within that quote was not clear.
"Of course . . . I don't want to sound insensitive to how such good man died in such horrific way."
There are many good men who have died horrible deaths for the sake of goodness. None of those deaths meant anything. Yeshua wasn't just a good man. He was God. Big difference and the reason why His death did amount to something, actually everything. Unless you believe that He is God, Yeshua was just another good man and His death--and consequently, the life He offers you--is of no effect to you. You can say what you want, but you don't hold His life or His death in high esteem.
Prove me Islam came after Judaism or Christianity. I say Islam was born with Lord Muhammad 3000 years before Lord Jesus walked the world in flesh. Do your research and prove me wrong.
I can't find your Muhammad. I've just spent time trying to hunt your Muhammad down. Everything I've seen says Muhammad was born around 570 A.D. Is this another private revelation?
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The proof is my testimony.
And your testimony contradicts the Koran, the Torah, and the New Testament. Apparently, you are a religion of one.
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I do not agree with everything our brother Danny says, but I do not have to automatically discredit everything he says just because he does not believe in Yeshua. He is actually a very interesting person to listen to. I'm hoping I can find a "better" way to persuade him to believe in Lord Jesus. Not that I haven't confronted him already. Not that I won't confront him again.
I agree with you. Dannyil is very interesting. He is extremely intelligent. God has blessed us with a great opponent, and I am very glad he is here. I don't expect you to disagree with everything Danny says. I would expect a Christian to disagree with Danny on most of what he says about Yeshua. But since you are not a Christian and seem to pick and choose what you believe, it makes sense that you would agree with Danny on things that seem to contradict your own positions. I look forward to seeing how you will persuade him to believe in a Yeshua that has no historical documentation, belongs to a religion that is targeting his people with missiles, and offers only the righteousness that Danny believes the Torah already gives him.
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I believe in what I believe and what I believe it is brought to you on my testimony.
I do not need to be disagreeable with those who don't have the same convictions as me, to be a "believer". And who are you to question my faith?
A Berean. You will have to read and understand the NT to know what that means. BTW, the Bible tells us to test the spirits. You have been tested and found wanting. For the record, there are things that Christians can disagree about. But Christians cannot disagree about the nature of Yeshua. We have a term in the Christian culture for people who do not believe Yeshua is God: "the unsaved."
REV320:
"I agree with you. Dannyil is very interesting. He is extremely intelligent. God has blessed us with a great opponent, and I am very glad he is here. I don't expect you to disagree with everything Danny says. I would expect a Christian to disagree with Danny on most of what he says about Yeshua."
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But then, I like listening to you too. You're not less intelligent than Danny. You are on "my team" but not on my side and I'm aware of that.
REV320:
"But since you are not a Christian and seem to pick and choose what you believe, it makes sense that you would agree with Danny on things that seem to contradict your own positions. "
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Just because I don't see Jesus as GOD ALMIGHTY, doesn't mean I'm not Christian... does not mean I don't love Jesus... does not mean I don't follow his teachings.
Again, who are you to question my faith?
"God has blessed us with a great opponent, and I am very glad he is here."
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That was very silly of you to say my friend.
"God has blessed us with a great opponent, and I am very glad he is here."
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That was very silly of you to say my friend.
Silly in what way?
Just because I don't see Jesus as GOD ALMIGHTY, doesn't mean I'm not Christian... does not mean I don't love Jesus... does not mean I don't follow his teachings.
Either Yeshua is our sacrifice because He is God or He is not our sacrifice because He is only a man.
If Yeshua was our sacrifice and was only a man, then (1) Yeshua is not Messiah since the sacrifice had to be perfect (Leviticus 9), (2) Yeshua would not be sinless (Romans 3:23), and (3) Yeshua is not our salvation since Isaiah says the best works of man are dirty rags (Isaiah 64:6). Yeshua's life and death would be nothing more than a dirty rag. The blood of a dirty menstrual rag is dead blood. It is ineffective to bring about life, and it is expelled from the body, rejected. There is no salvation if Yeshua is only a man.
The sacrifice had to be perfect--not man or animal since all created things are heir to the inheritance of sin (Romans 8:22)--and the blood had to be living and active: "For the life of the flesh [is] in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it [is] the blood [that] maketh an atonement for the soul" (Lev 17:11).
Once again, it is not the blood of man or animals that is required: "For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give [it] . . . The sacrifices of God [are] a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart" (Psalm 51:16-17). Repentance through the shed blood of Yeshua God is required.
Atonement had to be made. If man and animal is not good enough, and God does not want our sacrifices, whose and what sacrifice will He accept?
Compounded further, whoever dies the sacrificial death gets the glory for paying the cost. Who will God share His glory with? "I [am] the LORD: that [is] my name: and my glory will I not give to another" (Isaiah 42:8).
Again, who are you to question my faith?
You said that you were going to try to win Dannyil to Yeshua. Who are you to question his faith?
You are deceived about your salvation. If you are not saved through God's sacrifice, you are not a Christian. I would rather offend you and see you saved.
"If Yeshua was our sacrifice and was only a man, then (1) Yeshua is not Messiah since the sacrifice had to be perfect (Leviticus 9), (2) Yeshua would not be sinless (Romans 3:23), and (3) Yeshua is not our salvation since Isaiah says the best works of man are dirty rags (Isaiah 64:6). Yeshua's life and death would be nothing more than a dirty rag. The blood of a dirty menstrual rag is dead blood. It is ineffective to bring about life, and it is expelled from the body, rejected. There is no salvation if Yeshua is only a man."
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Those of you that refuse to believe I've sinned will be exposed to your words. But then, I never said I was God.
"God has blessed us with a great opponent, and I am very glad he is here."
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That was very silly of you to say my friend.
Silly in what way?
May sound "silly" but isn't. The answer for this question answers everything you need to know about me.
Really!!! not messing around with you or anything.
"I would rather offend you and see you saved."
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Thank you.
"I would rather offend you and see you saved."
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Thank you.
Your welcome mary.
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