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I anticipate people being angry about this one.

Instead of thinking national Israel has totally rejected Jesus (I am not just talking about a remnant of messianics) you might consider the rupture of Orthodox Judaism as part of a process moving national Israel toward Yeshua.

What made me think of this is I saw a book where Theodore Herzel one of the founders of Israel was described (this is probably where you will get mad at me if I over simplify as a novice) as being Christian influenced and raised outsided Judaism.  End result being he was more into the prophets than the Talmud.

So, isn't Japan, Germany and Iraq part of Pseudochristendom?

Respecting women, human rights, hospitals, this all comes from Jesus originally, doesn't it?

So Japan and Israel are in a phase of evangelization, maybe stuck in a phase?

David said, It is good I have been afflicted, that I might learn thy (Jehovahs) statutes. It is sad when politicians must represent our inability to address our neighbors needs or when people are governed by legislating semi piternal constructs of the Torah.

Are Sodomy laws legislated at the State level because homosexuality isn't  a civil rights issue, according to a racial groups stance on religion and the gerrymandering of voting precincts? Or... if we were to outlaw guns, would only outlaws have them?

We need police because of crime. We need doctors because we break bones. We need Jesus not as an scapegoat, we need Jesus as a friend.
Christendom to me means responsibility, like that old saying, "Jesus is not a license to sin, nor an excuse for it either."

Like the scripture in Hebrews, despise not the chastening of the Lord.
Let no man despise thy youth, but be all things to all people thereby saving maybe a handful. Just being around to listen to what people believe and staying around them long enough to see if they live out that belief is a good quality.

Liberating a nation under the guise of providing democracy, once again allows the developement of the nations religious thought, as though directly from democratic process, where the majority as a general rule has the say.

History records the middle East as the cradle of civilization, there are many reasons for this. It makes good sense if you realize how fragile and transient life really is.

I think I understand what you are saying. Jewish evangelism is not a wasted effort. The "novelty" of it should not be recognized.  Reality says at times, has religion really done it's job? Y'shua calls to order all other systems of belief. In a debate someone said, Y'shua came to change individual hearts, not the government.

Peace.
  

Becoming a christian is the last thing in the world I thought I would ever do. I thought being a "religious" "church going" "christian" would take away my individuality, and make me an uninteresting square. I am coming out of that crude, immature, inexperienced way of thinking.

Y'shua is Love, that 's how I know He is God. (God's Son)  God in human form.

I know I don't have to be so vocal with my decision to let Y'shua be Lord anymore. I believe the Holy Spirit bears all the witness we need.