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I am getting quite frankly tired of people who (whether or not they believe in Y'shua ben-Miryam as Messiah) come here to try to destroy JFJ, jewsforjesus.org, the JFJ/jewsforjesus.org forums, and those (Jewish and gentile) who are Christians and want to use the JFJ ministry (including website and forums) to be in fellowship and minister to each other while witnessing to those who at least claim that they don't believe in Y'shua ben-Miryam as Messiah.

I don't know the intent of everyone here; but I know the intents of especially the anti-JFJ, anti-Christian, anti-missionary, and self-hating Jewish claimants who come to the JFJ website and forums to belittle those like myself and (I could say) Brianroy, revelation320, and Prowler. The self-hating Jewish claimants who are belittlers of JFJ and Christians are, I seem to observe, are the following:

1. Chava (Sheitl Queen)
   
2. Danny (Dannyil)
   
3. Shlomo
   
4. The Emess
   

I also see other people who, even though they're not Jewish, are all but self-hating Jewish claimants, including norisk and possibly david. My question is, why are we allowing Jewish claimants and gentiles who don't want to respectfully debate JFJ here to try to destroy JFJ, jewsforjesus.org, the JFJ/jewsforjesus.org forums, and those (Jewish and gentile) who are Christians

Good thread sister. Am I included in that list? Hugs

A gospel ministry operating under the power and guidance of the Holy Spirit cannot be destroyed (the dirt is thrown but falls to the ground without soiling the target); the same with individual believers.  We learn to watch and be patient when faced with continual opposition (for they are not opposing us so much as they are opposing Jesus Christ), and it keeps us from cocooning or having a false sense of what is about us.

It's an exercise in patience, and confidence in the power of the gospel.  For the educated, there's an educated answer here.  But whether understanding is simple or deep, it seems to divide at whether one is going to worship man or God.  There really is no in-between.  Man-centered worship doesn't bring peace, and it assures nothing.  And that incites the attacks on JFJ and the forums.

As we've seen lately, man-centered worship doesn't bring shalom; and actually assures that there may be tsuris about which one might start kvetshn, and I've kvetshned about so many things that I've gotten many veytikim.

Happily, there is a remedy for tsuris and kvetching.  As for veytikim, I know it has to do with pain (vey), but tikim I am at a loss as to its meaning.  The remedy for the pain and frustration associated with man-centered worship:

Psalm 146 - 1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul.  2 While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being.  3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
  

Well, though not perfectly, I try to worship in spirit and truth without keeping all 613 mitzvot; some of which were purposely made to look or add what is stupid and foolish. For example, if keeping all 613 mitzvot should sanctify and keep salvation eternally secure for a person, why don't they keep Mo'avim out of their synagogues and churches?



Some Israeli should've said, "Why, ADONAI? Are we better than Mo'av or Mitzrayim, or 'mamzers' who didn't have the choice to be born as 'mamzers'?" Even Avraham and Sarah were goyim, and Avraham had a first-generation Mitzrayimi son.