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When I reason the philisophical point of view of what Jesus taught,
God is supposed to be smarter and wiser right? I will give a scripture:

Hebrews: Without faith, those that have faith, have to have faith in Jehovah, 1 way, 1 God, 1 Lord, 1 faith, 1 baptism. This makes complete sense. Think of a two way street. Depending on which way you go, the other way is wrong. Saying something is right actually is saying there is wrong. Gather it up, One human being just doesn't decide I am right! How does He know? Where does He get the knowledge? There is simplicity in claiming you are right by God's (Y'shua's) truth.

1) He died standing behind what He believed.
2) He said He was the truth, and backed it up.
3) No one has proven Y'shua a liar.
4) People spend a lot of time telling you, you are in essence going the wrong way.
5) One way is easier, than say 4800 different ways because, it (1)would be easier to follow, easier to understand i.e. you would only have to learn one way.
6) There is a concept called grace that allows us to find this one way to salvation by (trail and error) (error=sin), trying these many differing paths (ways),
and then realizing:
HEY!

7) Jehovah provided a Way! and the experienced and truthful followers of Y'shua can explain their trail and error (sin) and the subsequent deliverance from faulty reasoning.

8) Exclusivity of the Hebrew nation as God's chosen, is the truth insomuch as they delivered unto the nations Jehovah's truth, also His prophecies. These were fulfilled in Y'shua.

Isaiah 1
[18] Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Rom.5
[8] But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Eph.1
[7] In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

According to faith, faith pleases God. In context, This means faith in Him
and His Son.



Cor517,

Of course you have to have faith in the Almighty Hashem, that is a given. But G-d tells us over and over again that it is what we do that brings us closer to Him.

You quoted from Isaiah:
1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith HaShem; though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.


As us Jews like to point out, please read the verse in content. Let's see what Isaiah is saying:

Isaiah is telling the people that they are sacrificing without true repentance. That it is useless to G-d unless they show they're serious. How do they do that? Through their actions. See below.

Here is what Isaiah is saying in content;

16 Wash you, make you clean, put away the evil of your doings from before Mine eyes, cease to do evil;

17 Learn to do well; seek justice, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith HaShem; though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land;


It is a lot more than just faith.
"What can faith do?"


RE:
Cure the blind, feed the poor, shelter the homeless, comfort the heartbroken, forgive the unforgiven... etc
searchinmyroots Wrote:
Isaiah is telling the people that they are sacrificing without true repentance. That it is useless to G-d unless they show they're serious. How do they do that? Through their actions. See below. [...] It is a lot more than just faith.

Where is the rest of that faith? Is it in themselves, or God? Is obedience to the Law (works) the payment for sin? Why the sacrifices? Did God create animals in order to atone and pay for sin with their blood? How serious is God about sin?
Since you took the time to address me, search, I will add to the conversation,

Faith, as the song says, is the wind beneath our wings. It’s like a cool breeze on a hot day, refreshing us and giving us the strength to continue on our journey. Living in faith, for the inner man, is a bit like floating in a lake with our faces to the sun. We rest and let the water hold us up while the sun warms our faces. All we’ve done is avail ourselves to the gift given us.

Faith is a gift of God and our life’s blood. We can’t truly live without it. God knows what we are, that we are but dust, which is why He gives us everything we need for life and godliness. (2 Peter 1:3)

In Galatians 3:1-3, Paul demands to know who bewitched the people. “Are you so foolish?” he asks, “Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?” In other words, Paul is asking, “What were you thinking?”

We don’t have to prove our love to God so that He will love us in return. He already loves us. He has always loved us. While we were dead in our sins, God made us alive together with Christ. (Ephesians 2:5-6) We do not have to fear.

“For thus the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel, has said, ‘In repentance and rest you will be saved, in quietness and trust is your strength...’" (Isaiah 30:15). Simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ starts here and ends here. It is not in a multitude of works. It is in taking Jesus at His word “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. (Matthew 11:28-29)

Isaiah 50
[8] He is near that justifieth me; who will contend with me? let us stand together: who is mine adversary? let him come near to me.

Mrgreen
OUOTE:

"16 Wash you, make you clean, put away the evil of your doings from before Mine eyes, cease to do evil;

17 Learn to do well; seek justice, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith HaShem; though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land;"



RE:
Amen.
Everyone can "add" whatever they want to the verses quoted.

I believe what G-d says.

It is pretty clear, no mention of a messiah, no mention of blood.

19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land;"
Faith works by Love. Without love you can have no real faith. Love for who? The creator of all things.

1Pet.4
[8] And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

Search,

Peter was Jewish. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. Scholars say
Mark recorded Peter in writing. John was eyewitness. It is good there are no original letters, as one holding on to dirt would claim authority
in whatever way.

2Cor.13
[1] This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

Luke.18
[8] I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
1Cor.10
[21] Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
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