"One: Jesus will come when no-one is expecting Him."
The Angels told Lot the day, that day, and the hour, immediately, so this fits Luke 17:30 where Jesus says as in the days of Lot. They didn't know back then but right before we will know, at least see it is near right at the door. Mt 24:32
"He will come like a thief in the night, in terms of the sudden and unexpected nature of it."
If you look at the surounding verses it says the wicked don't expect it but the righteous do, it is like birth pains, and the whole pint of this is for it NOT to "overtake like a thief" v4.
"He will come like the lightning from the East to the West."
You think this is the rapture but it is really about the end time David Prince and the pillar of fire we follow to Jerusalem like in an Exodus II.
"The dates and times are set by the Father and are not for us to know. But in the meantime we are to be His witnesses, in Jerusalem, Judaea, Samaria, and to the ends of the Earth."
Agreed, but if God wants to save your life don't let our theology get in the way.
"As Paul says, there is no need to speculate, for we know very well He will come like a thief in the night. (Hmmm, so much for Paul not knowing what Jesus taught!:razz
" You already said this and I already showed you the text says the opposite of what you mean.
"Therefore let us get on with living for Him and forget about what the Mayans think, or the Celstine prophecy. Stick to the Word of God. It's the safest way, and prevents Christians from making total fools of themselves."
I have no idea what the celestine prophecy is. There is a big difference between it and things in creation, General revelation, God's book of nature the Astrologers used to know when Jesus was born as I already said on this thread.
