08-15-2006, 11:14 PM
08-21-2006, 03:22 AM
Bob1 Wrote:
the name Israel come from. Where does it originate in the Bible?
Good question! It may very well be when Jacob was given the name Israel - but I'm not sure.
Genesis 32:28 (New King James Version)
And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.”

Big pic I know but you have to admit, it's pretty cool!
08-21-2006, 01:10 PM
Bereishis / Genesis 32:25-32
Jacob wrestled with a manifestation of G-D, who (on this lone occasion) felt as though He were in the flesh; having recognized Him (that is, G-D) from the previous visit to Beth-el (formerly known as Luz). Cf. Bereishis / Genesis 28:10-22, with emphasis on verse 11...Jacob beheld Him and heard His voice at night.
At Beth-el, HASHEM literally stood over Jacob and blessed him with the right to the Land, both Jacob and his offspring after him. Therefore, when Jacob prevailed, when he was renamed "Israel" by G-D in Genesis 32:28-29; it followed that even as a nation was often named after its patriarch, so too were Jacob's -- now Israel's offspring --named Israelites.
Even as Canaan (a son of Ham) fathered a nation called Canaanites. The first inhabitants of Israel were blacks or negroes, which we now label as "Africans". When Abraham entered Egypt, prior to the Hyksos conquests, that land was called "Keme", which means "the dark lands". So we see, that in some African Americans, there should also be a supernatural affiliation to the Lands of Israel and Egypt as well. We see this in the zeal for Christianity and Mohammedism warring in their communal souls.
We also see in history that it was the Aramaic Hyksos, the lighter skinned antecedents of Greece, Tyre, Carthage, and Rome which disenfranchised the dark peoples who first built the pyramids, forcing the Kemites to became Ethiopians and Cushites, reshaping the Middle East circa 1790 B.C.
Yet, in all this, the sons of Abraham are not known as Abrahamites, because more than one nation sprung from him. Those of the house of Ishmael owning the greastest oil reserves of the Middle East south of the Euphrates, into the Saudi peninsula. Isaac also fathered two nations, the sons of Esau calling themselves in our day as " Jordanians" and "Palestinians". However, in Jacob, though he bore many sons, they remained as ehad, as one united people. Therefore, the name of Israel and its inheritance to the Land from the Jordan westward (north and south to the river of Egypt) was given to his right of inheritance by HASHEM himself; and is why, to this day, we call his united descendants as "Israel". The oldest nation extant on the face of the earth. Would you like to know more? Does this answer help?
Jacob wrestled with a manifestation of G-D, who (on this lone occasion) felt as though He were in the flesh; having recognized Him (that is, G-D) from the previous visit to Beth-el (formerly known as Luz). Cf. Bereishis / Genesis 28:10-22, with emphasis on verse 11...Jacob beheld Him and heard His voice at night.
At Beth-el, HASHEM literally stood over Jacob and blessed him with the right to the Land, both Jacob and his offspring after him. Therefore, when Jacob prevailed, when he was renamed "Israel" by G-D in Genesis 32:28-29; it followed that even as a nation was often named after its patriarch, so too were Jacob's -- now Israel's offspring --named Israelites.
Even as Canaan (a son of Ham) fathered a nation called Canaanites. The first inhabitants of Israel were blacks or negroes, which we now label as "Africans". When Abraham entered Egypt, prior to the Hyksos conquests, that land was called "Keme", which means "the dark lands". So we see, that in some African Americans, there should also be a supernatural affiliation to the Lands of Israel and Egypt as well. We see this in the zeal for Christianity and Mohammedism warring in their communal souls.
We also see in history that it was the Aramaic Hyksos, the lighter skinned antecedents of Greece, Tyre, Carthage, and Rome which disenfranchised the dark peoples who first built the pyramids, forcing the Kemites to became Ethiopians and Cushites, reshaping the Middle East circa 1790 B.C.
Yet, in all this, the sons of Abraham are not known as Abrahamites, because more than one nation sprung from him. Those of the house of Ishmael owning the greastest oil reserves of the Middle East south of the Euphrates, into the Saudi peninsula. Isaac also fathered two nations, the sons of Esau calling themselves in our day as " Jordanians" and "Palestinians". However, in Jacob, though he bore many sons, they remained as ehad, as one united people. Therefore, the name of Israel and its inheritance to the Land from the Jordan westward (north and south to the river of Egypt) was given to his right of inheritance by HASHEM himself; and is why, to this day, we call his united descendants as "Israel". The oldest nation extant on the face of the earth. Would you like to know more? Does this answer help?
08-22-2006, 05:13 PM
Didn't the name Palestinian come from the Romans loose translation of Philistine. (sp)
08-23-2006, 03:12 AM
Jack Lavictoire Wrote:
Genesis 32:28 (New King James Version)
And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.”
It's amazing that God allowed Jacob to wrestle with him. I wonder what weight class God wrestles in?
