Those who are Yehudim and goyim Meshichim (those who believe in Y'shua shel-Natzaret (Jesus of Nazareth) as HaMashiach (the Messiah, Christ)) tend to use Tanakh and Brit Chadashah, and even study Talmud, in light of the Tanakh in its purest, Jewish, non-Talmudi form; and tend to be intellectually and overall honest and with integrity, although adom Meshichim admit to being imperfect and in need of Y'shua shel-Natzaret. Talmudim and other non-Messianic Jewish and gentile people, however, tend to justify themselves by appealing to their works and Talmudi thinking (Deuteronomy 9-28, Isaiah 29, 47, 57; Romans 1-14, Galatians 1-5).
Dearest Goy,
Are you trying to say that Jewish and gentile non-believers, in your opinion, try to justify themselves by works?
I know I post in honesty (that does not mean I am always right, just that I am being honest).
And I only ask that the same rules apply to both sides.
And really, I prefer to stick to scripture as our equally agreed upon valid source of truth. My "sages/commentators" against your "sages/commentators" is meaningless to me. That's just opinion against opinion. Big whoop-dee-doo.
We should stick to what God has said, in it's WRITTEN form.
Ripleys said;
"We should stick to what God has said, in it's WRITTEN form."
SMR:
AMEN!
Dearest Goy,
Are you trying to say that Jewish and gentile non-believers, in your opinion, try to justify themselves by works?
Ripley's post, I think, summarizes what I was saying; because if you think about posts like searchin's, (s)he makes clear that (s)he thinks that one can be righteous on their own. searchin and others also follow Talmud.
SMR is a he, just to let you know (thank you for your politeness!).
It's not that I think I can be righteous on my own, I just follow the Word of G-d.
Psalm 62:
13 Also unto Thee, O L-rd, belongeth mercy; for Thou renderest to every man according to his work.
25:21 Let integrity and uprightness preserve me, because I wait for Thee.
Jonah 3:
10 And G-d saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and G-d repented of the evil, which He said He would do unto them; and He did it not.
Psalm 50:
23 Whoso offereth the sacrifice of thanksgiving honoureth Me; and to him that ordereth his way aright will I show the salvation of G-d.'
Proverbs 10:
2 Treasures of wickedness profit nothing; but righteousness delivereth from death.
3 HaShem will not suffer the soul of the righteous to famish; but He thrusteth away the desire of the wicked.
Proverbs 12:28 In the way of righteousness is life, and in the pathway thereof there is no death.
Part 2
Proverbs 16: Commit thy works unto HaShem, and thy thoughts shall be established
6 By mercy and truth iniquity is expiated; and by the fear of HaShem men depart from evil.
7 When a man's ways please HaShem, He maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.
8 Better is a little with righteousness than great revenues with injustice.
Proverbs 21:
3 To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to HaShem than sacrifice.
8 The way of man is froward and strange; but as for the pure, his work is right.
21 He that followeth after righteousness and mercy findeth life, prosperity, and honour.
II Chronicles
6:42 O HaShem G-d, turn not away the face of Thine anointed; remember the good deeds of David Thy servant.'
I follow what G-d has taught us. That is why His Book is the Tree of Life.
SMR:
AMEN!
Thank you SMR.
(I'm not going to answer any scripture quotes here tho. We ahve plenty of threads for that.)
SMR is a he, just to let you know (thank you for your politeness!).
It's not that I think I can be righteous on my own, I just follow the Word of G-d.
Psalm 62:
13 Also unto Thee, O L-rd, belongeth mercy; for Thou renderest to every man according to his work.
25:21 Let integrity and uprightness preserve me, because I wait for Thee.
Jonah 3:
10 And G-d saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and G-d repented of the evil, which He said He would do unto them; and He did it not.
Psalm 50:
23 Whoso offereth the sacrifice of thanksgiving honoureth Me; and to him that ordereth his way aright will I show the salvation of G-d.'
Proverbs 10:
2 Treasures of wickedness profit nothing; but righteousness delivereth from death.
3 HaShem will not suffer the soul of the righteous to famish; but He thrusteth away the desire of the wicked.
Proverbs 12:28 In the way of righteousness is life, and in the pathway thereof there is no death.
You convieniently ignored Genesis 3-4 and 15, and Deuteronomy 9 and 18. Also, what translation says that God repented of something?
Part 2
Proverbs 16: Commit thy works unto HaShem, and thy thoughts shall be established
6 By mercy and truth iniquity is expiated; and by the fear of HaShem men depart from evil.
7 When a man's ways please HaShem, He maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.
8 Better is a little with righteousness than great revenues with injustice.
Proverbs 21:
3 To do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to HaShem than sacrifice.
8 The way of man is froward and strange; but as for the pure, his work is right.
21 He that followeth after righteousness and mercy findeth life, prosperity, and honour.
II Chronicles
6:42 O HaShem G-d, turn not away the face of Thine anointed; remember the good deeds of David Thy servant.'
I follow what G-d has taught us. That is why His Book is the Tree of Life.
Following after righteousness and mercy, and committing anything to HaShem, is by faith (Genesis 15:6).