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Christ himself hates such talk.

You have been warned.

What "talk" are you specifically referring to? What are your verses that back your opinion?

I am sorry for not replying sooner. Found this link below which has details about the individual in question.  Interesting article and take notice of 2nd photo down. I hope placing a link on this forum is okay... if not...I will email link to you.

http://bob-mitchell.blogspot.com/2008_06...chive.html

Swissnut58

Me again about the number 666....   I heard someone say that 666 could mean WWW as in world wide web ...I think I heard that from the late (and great) Zola Levitt.  That is not to say the world wide web is evil...but could the number of the Antichrist have a WEB address or something at the beginning???  Just a thought...

Swissnut58

I don't think the number refers to a technology, as such. But no doubt there will be some kind of promotional information praising it. If it were to be a technology, at the moment, I would still go with an implanted device.

But even then, the number is the number of his name and seems to be different than the mark of the beast or the actual name of the beast (Rev 13:18). This seems to suggest gemmatria, doesn't it? But if that is the case, should we use Greek since John was writing in Greek? Or should we use Hebrew since John was addressing this portion of Revelation to Jews? And would it be a futile exercise now since the beast isn't revealed until after the Rapture and the restrainer is taken away?

I don't know anything about any of this. I have more questions than answers. Your web idea is as good any right now. You never know. In the name of transparency, we may all get a web site or a data dump so that everyone can see what we are buying and doing with our "mark." Not "our mark" really since both you and I know better than to take it and will have the wisdom through God to know what it means at the time.

What amazes me though is that Satan being a thing who likes deception would allow his man to be so readily identified (not so deceptive). This makes me think that whatever the number refers to is out of Satan's ability to change or manipulate or to foresee. Or would he want his man to have this number? Does Satan have to wait until after the antichrist is born and named to know that he is the antichrist?

Hello again!
Look, in history there have been other people that I believe were tempted to destroy the JEWS. Hitler was one in more modern times. Herod also who told his soldiers to kill all little boys ages 2 and below to prevent this so called King of the Jews from growing up and challenging him. I think that Satan is not so much an expert on the Bible and Prophecy so at certain times in history he tempted certain people in power positions to destroy the Jews in an effort to prevent the return of Messiah...no JEW ...no MESSIAH since Messiah comes from them. Hitler had an occult astrologer that gave him much of his military advice. The occult being from SATAN is where I believe Hitler was tempted and drawn into the FINAL SOLUTION. Rid the world of the Jew and their Messiah can not come. Today, another one seduced by this evil is Ahmadinajad who thinks he's something special and he will take it on himself to destroy Israel, which in reality is Satan's way of preventing the return of the Messiah. I started thinking that if RAPTURE is close (which I believe it is now), then possibly, another candidate for antichrist is walking the earth RIGHT NOW, but still not revealed. The right person has to come at the right time. I have been doing this for a long time and never really saw any one on the political horizon that fit the Antichrist description, until this new guy that you have also noticed. I started looking for a good guy instead of a sinister guy, because the Bible says that even the very elect will nearly be fooled by him. This means he will be too good to believe. What is disturbing is that the guy I am watching right now, is now considered by Netanyahu as being a good friend to Israel. I could be wrong, but his recent creation of the MU and his friendly gestures to Israel is seriously interesting. I keep watching this man and he gets closer and closer. When I saw the website of him with a rabbi affiliated with the movement to build the Third Temple, then I got REALLY interested. As for the 666, we are going to have another ECONOMIC crisis and I think major bank failures.  It's going to be caused by OIL and some terrible event in the Middle East. Currencies will become unreliable and identity theft is a danger these days.  This I believe will bring about some kind of implanted device that will have a bank affiliation...could be a www. etc....  this way the BIG bank or whatever can keep track of you and also allow you to buy food, etc.  The 666 and www theory has something to do with the way that the HEBREW alphabet is associated with numbers. The English W is replaced in Hebrew with a V, and the number for V is 6. I'm no expert. It's just a thought, but the more all these things seem here and now, it tells me that RAPTURE is close. Too bad not enough ministers are saying so. This is the blessed hope...that keeps me going. All of the above is just theorizing, but it really gets me excited!

Since this is the judgment of God upon the world, and after that the end of Satan's travels in this world and the final casting of him into the lake of fire, I think a good case can be made that it is not a matter of what Satan wants but what he is permitted by God to do.  Satan apparently does not know who the man will be.  There will come a time when Satan knows he has but a short time, after he has been thrown out of heaven for the last time.  Because God calls things that are not as though they are, Satan's will is irrelevant, moot.  Satan will do only that which God permits him to do, and even the name or titling of Antichrist is out of his jurisdiction.  Satan will be permitted to empower the man, but Satan's power is limited by God.  When Satan rebelled, he had no idea the extent of the unintended consequences of his mistaken idea he could be independent of God.

And think, children:  billions of eons from today, we will not only have known the answers concerning ol' 666 but the former things will not even be brought to mind.  All the attention we must pay today to be forewarned, and to warn others of this evil yet to come, and then finally it will be truly in the past.  We won't have to watch anymore for evil men, watch their evil ways and hear their evil sayings, or have to deal with evil anything.  We will be too busy living and serving in the ever increasing Kingdom ruled by our victorious Lord Jesus Christ.

I think Gematria is at best a distraction.  When God gives a prophecy (or parable) hard to understand, the answer is not had by way of number or Bible coding, or else the most disinterested, atheistic person could divine it, and that is not how God's Word is made known to us.

Answers come by way of fullness of time, or by God giving that answer through that same scripture passage (as when Jesus explained a parable to His disciples), or in comparing in context related passages in other books of the holy scriptures.  We know we need the help of the Holy Spirit in all of this.

Our DNA is a code.  We can use what we know so far about it to figure out some medical or legal answers.  Although still a mystery, it isn't linked to mysticism.  But coding names for purposes of identifying actual persons is at best a gamble.  One man after another keeps trying to be the world leader or to dominate world affairs.  One day, when God gives the go ahead, Satan will be allowed to empower a man and move on.  I don't think it matters who the man is so much as the permission to Satan to rule the world through his own "son".  So we know we are actually waiting for God.

We need to look at the clues God has given us, and giving us the number 666 tells us this man will present himself as God.  If we look to gematria, I think this goes away from what God has revealed, because it is like fortune telling.  It is highly entertaining, but not at all reliable.  But it is reliable to learn this man will falsely show himself as God and demand worship and identification with him personally or else, and it will be uniquely enforced worldwide.

The AC's number, in whichever form it finally manifests (a number in a chip?), will be significant, because it is mentioned as being so.  It seems that the AC is defined as to what he is by his number, rather than who he is.

The name of Jesus tells us not only who this Name belongs to (there is only one Person who is the incarnate Son of God), but what He is to us, our Savior and Lord.  Somehow, in this false showing, the AC's name will function the same way, telling us not only who he is to the world (there is only one person who is by Satanic power like a son of the devil), but what he is, a man trying to be like God.  Just as God marks (seals) His own who believe in Jesus, AC will mark his own who believe in and worship him, which is why those left behind after the Rapture must not take that mark if they value their eternal souls.

Revelation 13 - 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.  18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.