1Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Having a good conscience toward God is to have your sins remitted at baptism, that is the remission of the curse.
Now that we all know that salvation is through Jesus Christ during baptism into His name and the receiving of the Holy Ghost, let us now move on to communion.
1 Corinthians 10:16
The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
Israel had to first kill A lamb and shed the blood of the sacrifice and it did not end there. The next step was A big word called APPLICATION. The blood had to be applied to the door post or THE FIRST BORN SON would die. If Israel had failed to apply the blood to the door post of their homes, the shedding of blood would have been in vain. GOD gave the orders to Moses and he conveyed that message to Israel. GOD also gives us the orders of what to do with The Blood Of CHRIST and it is very important for us to make application.
Baptism in Jesus name is how we apply the Blood of the Lamb so it can save us.
Matthew 26
27 Jesus Said, "drink ye all of it" apply it or else Jesus would have died for you in vain. The Melchisedec Communion is of such vital importance to us.
New Testament High Priestly Order
The Priesthood Ministry has never ended but has been changed.
Hebrew 7
12 Paul teaches "for the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity A change also of the law. In The Church Age we also have A High Priestly Ministry only it is changed To The Melchisedec Order With The Melchisedec Communion.
Many people in our day; have more confidence in their own self than they have in the Blood Of Christ. The LORD Jesus shed the blood for you but you must apply it yourself. My faith and believing is in The Blood and Body of CHRIST. This New Testament High Priest is Called a Melchisedec High Priest. Hebrew 7: 15 Paul The Apostle Said, " and it is far more evident; for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another Priest." This High Priest has a Melchisedec Communion. Matthew 26:28 "for this is my blood of The New Testament." The Communion Of The Melchisedec is not A Passover of the Old Testament. The New Testament began after Christ was Ressurected. John 6:56 "for he that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood dwelleth in me and I in him. This came to us after the day of Pentecost.
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The New Testament Communion gives us remission of our sins and not just A covering.
After we are baptized into Jesus we have the Curse remitted and all our sins up to that day. What about the other sins we commit after baptism?
Do we get baptized over and over again? NO. Then how do we deal with our daily sins to have a clean conscience toward God?
Christ made allowances for our failures and it is called communion.
Examine yourself before you partake of His Holy communion.
1 Corinthians 11
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.
27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
Remission of your mistakes is offered to us after baptism. We are NOT of the Catholic belief system where they commit the same sins over and over and are told they are forgiven by an earthly priest, no, this does not apply to us. We are not allowed to commit the same sin over and over again then expect communion to take it all away. If we do this and we partake of communion unworthily then we are drinking damnation to ourselves.
Matthew 20:23
And Jesus saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with:...
1Corinthians 11
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
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Learn about the New Priestly Order in the New Testemant
Hebrews 5:6
As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 5:10
Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 6:20
Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 7:1
For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
Hebrews 7:10
For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.
Hebrews 7:11
If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Hebrews 7:15
And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
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Hebrews 7:17
For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Hebrews 7:21
(For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec)
What is our High Priest doing for us today?
When we get baptized we send our sins ahead to be judge.
When we take our communion for our new sins Christ intercedes for us. He stands between us and the Father, the Holy of Holys in the heavens. Only He the High Priest can go into the Holy of Holys.
You see now how the earthly priesthood and tabernacle was a shadow of the heavenly tabernacle.
1Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
Having a good conscience toward God is to have your sins remitted at baptism, that is the remission of the curse.
Now that we all know that salvation is through Jesus Christ during baptism into His name and the receiving of the Holy Ghost, let us now move on to communion.
1 Corinthians 10:16
The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
Israel had to first kill A lamb and shed the blood of the sacrifice and it did not end there. The next step was A big word called APPLICATION. The blood had to be applied to the door post or THE FIRST BORN SON would die. If Israel had failed to apply the blood to the door post of their homes, the shedding of blood would have been in vain. GOD gave the orders to Moses and he conveyed that message to Israel. GOD also gives us the orders of what to do with The Blood Of CHRIST and it is very important for us to make application.
Baptism in Jesus name is how we apply the Blood of the Lamb so it can save us.
Matthew 26
27 Jesus Said, "drink ye all of it" apply it or else Jesus would have died for you in vain. The Melchisedec Communion is of such vital importance to us.
New Testament High Priestly Order
The Priesthood Ministry has never ended but has been changed.
Hebrew 7
12 Paul teaches "for the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity A change also of the law. In The Church Age we also have A High Priestly Ministry only it is changed To The Melchisedec Order With The Melchisedec Communion.
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here we go again.
willby taking something peter said The like figure and trying to say now baptism now saves us ltieral is WRONG.
You do not have a case a tall peter is clear Baptism is The figure of one salvation !confessing unto Christ when they believe
You build a whole doctrine on one verse that you twist from it meaning from just being symbolic of what saves us to what literal saves us!
you still can not answer my questions?
When we take our communion for our new sins Christ intercedes for us. He stands between us and the Father, the Holy of Holys in the heavens. Only He the High Priest can go into the Holy of Holys.
we do not have to take communion to be forgiving
The bible says if we would just confess to God he is faithful and will clean you from all wrong doing.
so lets take back.
question number 1 Can a pastor refuse someone baptism due to there beliefs?
2. Did the apostle get the holy spirit when Jesus breath on them and said receive the holy spirit? I mean nothing happen at that point no tongues etc.. until later at pentacost so were they not saved until pentacost?
3. Is peter puting baptism in peter 3:21 saving is a literal sense our figure of what saves us?
acts 8:16 do you know the different from holy spirit indwelling in the believer from baptism of the holy spirit coming upond them?
Was the guy said who The apostle said believe and you will be saved then he have to wait for his salvation later on or did he get it when he believe?
another question do you know mark 16;16 is not in the oldest most greek scrips ? even scholars agree well most of them that it was added in later On.
Also was paul said when jesus knock him off his horse? Paul called jesus Lord right then. The bible says only the holy spirit can call Jesus lord.
can you answer these questions?
When we take our communion for our new sins Christ intercedes for us. He stands between us and the Father, the Holy of Holys in the heavens. Only He the High Priest can go into the Holy of Holys.
we do not have to take communion to be forgiving Not according to deeper understanding of the N.T. salvation.
The bible says if we would just confess to God he is faithful and will clean you from all wrong doing. Yes but before you partake of His communion
so lets take back.
question number 1 Can a pastor refuse someone baptism due to there beliefs? If they are unbelievers.
2. Did the apostle get the holy spirit when Jesus breath on them and said receive the holy spirit? I mean nothing happen at that point no tongues etc.. until later at pentacost so were they not saved until pentacost? The Holy Spirit is a gift from the Father which we receive after baptism, some may have received it first but I assure you baptism followed. You can not be saved without baptism. Learn what baptism does for you before you tear it down--make a list.
3. Is peter puting baptism in peter 3:21 saving is a literal sense our figure of what saves us? Baptism saves us...period!
acts 8:16 do you know the different from holy spirit indwelling in the believer from baptism of the holy spirit coming upond them? YES--the Holy Spirit will lead and guide you into all truths...if you are searching
Was the guy said who The apostle said believe and you will be saved then he have to wait for his salvation later on or did he get it when he believe? Believe and be baptized - there is no other way.
another question do you know mark 16;16 is not in the oldest most greek scrips ? even scholars agree well most of them that it was added in later On. Added or not it is still the truth!
Also was paul said when jesus knock him off his horse? Paul called jesus Lord right then. The bible says only the holy spirit can call Jesus lord.
He wasn't calling Jesus Lord he was calling the Lord Lord as Paul did not believe in the Messiah prior to that point in time. That was a BIG shock to Paul, that it was Jesus.
can you answer these questions? YES
1Corithians 12
12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
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For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Baptism puts you in the body of Christ. Without baptism you are lost.
BELIEVE - anyone that was a true believer back then got baptized in Jesus name.
Try to find me one believer that was not baptized into Jesus.
Baptism is what makes someone a true believer!
'How where you baptized since you first believed' was a question from Paul.
You see he met some believers and right away Paul says how where you baptized since you first believed. He did not ask them if they where baptized as they said they where believers.
Believeing and being baptized was common knowledge back THEN!
again This is talking abotu baptism of the holy spirit. The believers have the holy spirit it just didn ot come on them.
to understand this you need to understand the greek language.
Stop talking like this sugarman.
You know it clearly says that Paul rebaptized them into Jesus then he laid hands on them and they received the Holy Ghost.
Stop changing the words to suit yourself...you continually are trying to force your beliefs into scripture. I take scripture after scripture as they all line up to ONE salvation.
example:
You being a human don't have to believe that you are human as you are human.
If you only believe in Christ then you can not be part of him as you are just a believer. You need to put on Christ and become a possessor of Christ and be part of His body.
I am no longer a believer----I am a possessor of Christ, a member of His body, the Church!!
This is just some of what you receive at baptism in Jesus name.
Buried with Him and we resurrect in His likeness, and we receive a new name, His name, and then we are joint-heirs with Christ.
I have told you all of this before but since I got angry with you I feel the need to show some charity and attempt once again to help you understand.
Believe, get baptized, and have faith in baptism that it will save you. This is to have faith in Christ and believe what He says and that what He did will lead to your salvation through baptism into His name. Being born again without the curse, a new creature in Christ.
Give me one verse where the bible says water baptism make you a literal a new creature ok?
if you cant you have no case
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
That is in Christ, not a believer in Christ, but a posessor of Christ! Baptism in Jesus name puts you in the body of Christ, you in Him and He in You. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature!
Not according to deeper understanding of the N.T. salvation.
So one haves to keep taking communion to be forgiving? if I miss One i can not be forgiving?
Can you please post your deeper NT verse that says we have to keep it to be forgiving?
question number 1 Can a pastor refuse someone baptism due to there beliefs? If they are unbelievers.
so if somone does not hold the same belief you consider them no-believers?
The Holy Spirit is a gift from the Father which we receive after baptism, some may have received it first but I assure you baptism followed. You can not be saved without baptism. Learn what baptism does for you before you tear it down--make a list.
NO it seems you do not understand what baptism of the holy spirit is I try to help you on that. TO be baptism with the holy spirit it must already be in you read this link.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/c...elect.y=15
YES--the Holy Spirit will lead and guide you into all truths...if you are searching
it seem you do not baptism of the holy spirit is when one already have it in them and when the baptism of the holy spirit it comes upond them.
Baptism saves us...period!
Answer the question is it a figure of what saves us or what literal saves us?
Believe and be baptized - there is no other way.
it looks like you do not understand that believeing and baptism are not the same.
The apostle put a fine line they said do you believe if yes then why would they baptism? because they would besaved and baptism is a figure of one salvation.
Added or not it is still the truth!
And you should read the last part did he say whoever not believe and was baptism will be damned No.
third day and the sites i posted for that verse show the truth On it.
He wasn't calling Jesus Lord he was calling the Lord Lord as Paul did not believe in the Messiah prior to that point in time. That was a BIG shock to Paul, that it was Jesus.
where does the bible says paul was calling The Lord Lord? and not jesus?
1Corithians 12
12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Baptism puts you in the body of Christ. Without baptism you are lost.
wilby to me this s spirtual baptism because if we literal drink water under we can drowned.
If this does refer to water baptism is another view is drinking is a figure of us being in Christ.
what literal puts us in Christ is when believe on him.