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I Know that repentance, Baptism in Yeshuah's name alone, and the baptism of the Spirit is the only way to become truly "Born Again" of water and the Spirit. You fellows that say "salvation begins and ends at repentance" may wish to call me and others like me, "legalists"...  Hey, that's fine with me..


steadfast maybe you can answer these questions.


first peter 3:21 not removing of filth of the flesh what is peter refering to?

literal dirt or sin?  if literal dirt how does that fit when his wording with not be removing?  I always thought baptism is when you are fully under water. if  your fully under water will not dirt come off if literal?


I look at your site so i would ask you to look at this.


it is a deep study in The OT and NT about what Jesus is saying on john chapter 3

I Know that repentance, Baptism in Yeshuah's name alone, and the baptism of the Spirit is the only way to become truly "Born Again" of water and the Spirit. You fellows that say "salvation begins and ends at repentance" may wish to call me and others like me, "legalists"...  Hey, that's fine with me..


steadfast maybe you can answer these questions.


first peter 3:21 not removing of filth of the flesh what is peter refering to?

literal dirt or sin?  if literal dirt how does that fit when his wording with not be removing?  I always thought baptism is when you are fully under water. if  your fully under water will not dirt come off if literal?


I look at your site so i would ask you to look at this.


it is a deep study in The OT and NT about what Jesus is saying on john chapter 3


http://www.biblestudymanuals.net/jn3v18.htm#V

Therefore, I will endlessly strive to tell you the TRUTH of salvation, found in John 3:16 only thru obedience to Acts 2:38, to the fullest extent of all my God given strength, gifts, knowledge and anointing.


in acts 2:38 your making an historical mistake please read this.



http://www.learnthebible.org/q_a_acts_2_38.htm


also Note this



During the period of 100-311 A.D. it became the practice to place converts on a probationary period of teaching for approximately two years before baptism to make certain that their conversion was genuine"

[Also, compare Eerdman's "Handbook to the History of Christianity", (Tim Dowley Organizing Ed. Consulting Editors Briggs, Wright, & Linder. Copyright 1997 Lion Publishing. England. Reprinted 1987 by Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co. of G.R., Mich.; Library of Congress: BR146.E35 270 77.5616 ISBN 0-8028=3450-7]:



so it clear your both incorrect on what scripture is saying and also The earlier church also believe the same way as I did.


this shows that people been against baptism saving for over 1900 years  

'For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
Yashua Ha Mochiach (Jesus Christ)
Amen

I believe and call upon his name
He is my saviour

Yah(Iam)shua = savior =HaMochiach (Yahweh=savior Yashua Ha Mochiach ).

Whoever believes that Yeshua is the Messiah is born of God



1Yoch 5
Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Yeshua is the Son of God?

5:6 This is he who came by water and blood, Yeshua the Messiah; not with the water only, but with the water and the blood. It is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth.  
5:7 For there are three who testify*
5:8 the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and the three agree as one.
  
Yeshua RECEIVED HOLY SPIRIT( Luc 3;22 )
was baptised in WATER by John the Baptist(John1:29-34)
YESHUA gave his BLOOD for our sin.
These three agree as one .

5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for this is God’s testimony which he has testified concerning his Son.  5:10 He who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. He who doesn’t believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning his Son.  5:11 The testimony is this, that God gave to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.  5:12 He who has the Son has the life. He who doesn’t have God’s Son doesn’t have the life.  

5:13 These things I have written to you who believe
        IN THE NAME OF THE SON OF GOD,

That you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe iIN THE NAME OF THE SON OF GOD.

1Yoch 4:12 No one has seen God at any time.
But Isaiah says " We did see God the Son we sow his glory
Yoch20:29 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”
All is through God the Son ,behold Yah,shua is your God Jehovah who did answer to Abraham Isaac and Jacob
Yoch 12:37 But though he had done so many signs before them, yet they didn’t believe in him,  12:38 that the word of Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spoke, “Lord, who has believed our report?
    To whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”
12:39 For this cause they couldn’t believe, for Isaiah said again,
12:40 “He has blinded their eyes and he hardened their heart,
    lest they should see with their eyes,
    and perceive with their heart,
    and would turn,
    and I would heal them.”*
12:41 Isaiah said these things when he saw HIS GLORY AND SPOKE OF  HIM ,
Who did Isaiah see ?
Isaiah sow Jehovah he sow his glory
Many believed in him, but because of the Pharisees they didn’t confess it, so that they wouldn’t be put out of the synagogue,
12:43 for they loved men’s praise more than God’s praise.

Yeshua said "The Father himself, who sent me, has testified about me.
You have NEITHER HEARD HIS VOICE AT ANY TIME,NOR SEEN HIS FORM."
Yoch 5:37
So who voice did hear Moses ?
Moses did hear God  He did hear God the Son and he called him "I Am" is your saviour .
I Am is the only ONE God Son ever formed
before him no God Son is ever formed nor will a God be formed after him
Isa 43;10    that you may know and believe me,
    and understand that "I AM " he.
Before me there was no God formed,
    neither will there be after me.
43:11 I myself am the LORD;
    and besides me there is no savior.
1 Yoch 3:1-6 Behold, how great a love the Father(Jehovah God the Son) has bestowed on us, that we should be called children of God!
Beloved, now we are children of God, and it is not yet revealed what we will be. But we know that, when he is revealed, we will be like him; for we will see him just as he is. Everyone who has this hope set on him purifies himself, even as he is pure. Everyone who sins also commits lawlessness. Sin is lawlessness.  You know that he was revealed to take away our sins, and in him is no sin. Whoever remains in him doesn’t sin.
Whoever sins HASN,T SEEN HIM HIM, neither knows him.  

Awake ,Awake !

Eph 5:14 5:14 Therefore he says, “Awake, you who sleep, and arise from the dead, and Messiah will shine on you.”

               Awake ,Awake !
Isa 51:12 “I, even I,AM  he who comforts you:
who are you, that you are afraid of man who shall die, and of the son of man who shall be made as grass;  
51:13 and have forgotten the LORD your Maker, who stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth; and fear continually all the day because of the fury of the oppressor, when he makes ready to destroy? and where is the fury of the oppressor?  

51:14 The CAPTIVE EXILE SHALL SPEEDILY BE FREED ;

and he shall not die and go down into the pit, neither shall his bread fail.

51:15 For I AM the LORD YOUR GOD, who stirs up the sea, so that its waves roar: the LORD of Hosts is his name.  

I have put my words in your mouth, and have covered you in the shadow of my hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and tell Zion, ‘You are my people.’”

The way is narrow. It is through Christ ALONE. Not Mahamed, not Budha, not water baptism or sprinkling or other external signs for the way is narrow and is through faith in Christ. There is no other!

Salvation can be compared to the breath of life and H20
1st Hydrogen is for Yeshua / Grace
2nd Hydrogen is for faith and trust
while the oxygen is the confession of our heart as we proclaim Yeshua L-rd

It is not cheap grace!



Your making sure makes it more difficult to be initiated into faith.


We love you too and yes we believe you are saved.



I pray you guys spend more time on people that our outside and without hope in a Mashiach who came in the flesh. I'm standing on the Rock and I have been baptized so why do you preach this religion here? Are we seeking our own disciples and carbon copies or are we interested in getting people saved? I was saved before I was batpised and I was baptised because I was saved.

Actually, Yeshuah is trying to "complete" as many of those who "Believe" in Him, as will allow Him, before he empowers us to move mightily in these last desperate days...

If Judgement begins at the house of God, certainly the call to complete Spirit filled rightiousness preceeds that judgment.

This is where we are.
The call is this:
"Go out and get your oil while you still can..."

I personally don't believe every born again person will be ruptured... some rebellious Christians who are eternally saved will die in the desert a physical death like the children of Israel did with Moses.

Therefore the context above is discipleship and not eternal life!

If you a 100% dedicated like Paul than you shouldn't get married and yet this is not what the L-rd is requiring but yes religion keeps trying... and its these kind of religious attempts we oppose of which your water baptism doctrine and journey of salvation in reference to eternal life is one of... a false addition...

There is a sanctification process after a person has believed.  But it is when he has believed, that he is complete, and this completeness is in Christ.  It is not something that Jesus is trying to do, and that only by the will of man:
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:  12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

In God's sovereignty, of all that the Father has given to Christ, "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world", none will be lost.  There is no sanctification process without first being born again, which is by grace through faith.  That is why the apostle said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.  This means now, later and forever.

The virgins and their oil lamps refer to post-rapture Israel.  Being an Israeli will not save them, they must believe on Y'shua Messiach.

The call is "Come!"

Not, I Want To Believe, which is the gist of water baptism salvation.

But, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.  Trust Him today.  He will immediately reach down and save you.

Revelation 22:17  And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Hear that?  John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Do you believe that Jesus has this water to give?  Come.