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ThirdDay Wrote:

prophet Wrote:

Actually he doesn't....as for where do we find that jesus is the name of the Father....its been posted in other threads...you know the one where he says "I come in my Father's Name"...ring a bell....
how about "If you had known the me you would have known the Father and now see him"
"I and m Father are one" and the same(my add for clarity)

I am in the Father and the Father is in me"...
The Father(Jesus is in me Holy Ghost) as the scripture says:

Rom 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to [fulfil] the lusts [thereof].

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ

as I said ...I am in Christ and Christ is in me....just as Jesus said the Father is in me and I am in the Father....Holy GHost(Father)was in Jesus and Jesus put on the Father" Spirit just as He commands us to put on Him.

What does Yeshua being in the Father and the Father being in Yeshua have to do with the claim that the Father's name is Yeshua?

That's a non sequitor. If A is in B, it doesn't mean A is B. If the Holy Spirit is in me, does that mean I'm the Holy Spirit? The New Agers would say so, but not Christians.

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Wilby Wrote:

Send Your Sins Before You to be Judge Now. Least they follow after you to Judgement.

1Timothy 5

24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.

When you are baptized in Jesus name for the remission of sins you are sending them to be judged and dealt with at that moment. The way they are dealt with is they are remitted, gone.

If you do not get baptized into Jesus then when you go to judgement your sins will follow you there and be with you. You will not escape judgement. You ONLY hope is to deal with sin NOW.

People, don't gamble on this by supporting a church constitution or for reason of supporting your pastor. Many Pastors and wrong, far to many are repeating lies that have been handed down and they have nothing to do with truth and salvation.

Baptism saves!

1John 5:16
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

John 1
28 These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing.

29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.

This sin is remitted at baptism.

GET SAVED!

again it looks you like do not know the different from figure and literal.

to say baptism saves will have water literal The blood of Christ but if it a figure of one salvation then it shows it NOT WHAT LITERAL SAVES A PERSON.

come on willby this is PLAN ENGLISH

also willby Jesus is The Lion . does this make jesus thou literal a lion? or is this just an symbolic figure view on Jesus?

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So YOU say again! The Father is the Head of Christ and Christ is in the body of the Father. Christ is the Head of His body and we are in the body of Christ.
Everything is in order BUT everything comes from the Father as the Father is the ONLY being with life of His own. Everything else He gave life.

That does not mean that He IS everything. You are taking figurative language and applying literal meaning to it.

And the husband is the head of the wife. Is the wife now the husband also?

But you aren't consistent with your application of language. Which is why I asked about communion. Jesus said: "This is my blood, this is my body.." [paraphrase] Since you have such literal application, why don't you think as Catholics do? Honest question.

Missed this, wilby said:

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Adam brought death and the curse to man. Moses set up a priestrhood given by God to deal with this sin.

And what was the main function of that priesthood? And the primary function of the Temple (the ONE thing that cannot be done anywhere else?)

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Now ask youself; what are the new and better things?

The blood of the Perfect Lamb. Not having to be done every year as in the "old days"... but once and for all.

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The O.T. salvation is GREAT and eternal but the new has better things for those who make it.

There is only one plan of salvation, always has been, it hasn't changed. Since it was first told in Gen 3:15, and throughout the OT. And, frankly, baptism wasn't mentioned. Blood is our covering/atonement, not water.

Baptism in the name of Jesus is a new birth.

We must be reborn. When we were in our mothers womb we were surrounded by water. Baptism is being born again. Then we receive the spirit of Christ.

Except a man be born again of the water and the spirit he can not enter into His Kingdom.

When we are reborn into His family we receive His name and all the blessing of being in His family.

Rebirth without the curse.

Simple explanation for getting baptized.

sugarman Wrote:

also willby Jesus is The Lion . does this make jesus thou literal a lion? or is this just an symbolic figure view on Jesus?

Surgarman you also need to be quiet and learn just like know-it-all Ripley.

LION means:

1. a large, usually tawny-yellow cat, Panthera leo, native to Africa and southern Asia, having a tufted tail and, in the male, a large mane.

2. any of various related large wildcats, as the cougar.

3. a man of great strength, courage, etc.

4. a person of great importance, influence, charm, etc., who is much admired as a celebrity: a literary lion.

Ripley's Wrote:

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Now ask youself; what are the new and better things?

The blood of the Perfect Lamb. Not having to be done every year as in the "old days"... but once and for all.

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The O.T. salvation is GREAT and eternal but the new has better things for those who make it.

There is only one plan of salvation, always has been, it hasn't changed. Since it was first told in Gen 3:15, and throughout the OT. And, frankly, baptism wasn't mentioned. Blood is our covering/atonement, not water.

Well Jesus was baptized in water.....Eunuch was baptized in water,Cornelieus' household was baptized in water,John's disciples were rebaptized in water(in Jesus Name)...if you aren't buried with Christ in baptism you aren't any of His

Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ

Jesus gave the commandment to be baptized in 28:19(on which your whole trinity doctrine hinges on) and Peter gave the Name that was referred to in 28:19 the Holy Ghost speaking through him.

P.s. buried is a covered body(as in under water) not sprinkled on

Wilby Wrote:

Baptism in the name of Jesus is a new birth.

We must be reborn. When we were in our mothers womb we were surrounded by water. Baptism is being born again. Then we receive the spirit of Christ.

Except a man be born again of the water and the spirit he can not enter into His Kingdom.

When we are reborn into His family we receive His name and all the blessing of being in His family.

Rebirth without the curse.

Simple explanation for getting baptized.

willby you need to learn that I already dealth with this passage.

jesus is dealing with two different births not one and the same.

Our spirit needs to be born again the water is when we are born physical.

two different births