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Did God form a god like the formed gods of the nations?  Is this what Isaiah is saying?  And that this formed god will be glorious in the eyes of the LORD?  Or is Isaiah talking about the Son being made flesh from the womb?

Prowler is not a moderator or an official peace keeper between G-d's people but in my opinion your wording isn't the best Bush... and Baptistic was dealing with Anja's post, theology and awkward words that seem to conceal error while still being legally right.

Baptistic is making sure Yeshua is not referred to as being a created being (and hence not G-d in the true sense of the word) while you are talking about his Yeshua's flesh and the miracle of conception and virgin birth.

I am convinced that you believe Yeshua was from Eternity and was always with the Father but in the post above it is not clear and hence the strong response...

shalom

I wasn't adding in anything for argument's sake, I was just thinking out loud......

Saved according to the Holy Ghost, for those who hear word of mouth,
or cannot read?

It is Yahweh that searches the heart. Man looks on the outward appearance.

so then you are saying that youi worship 3 gods in one god,,,
thanks for the clarification

Me I worhsip One God unchanging who made Himself like me and was tried and tempted as a man like me and found blemeless.


1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

The Father is the Holy Spirit.......
The Word is God who is the Holy Spirit...
The Holy Ghost is God who is the Holy Spirit

These 3 are ONE Spirit.



1Jo 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Earth...man is formed from
Spirit...God in the man
Water and blood...make up the man

Spirit+Jesus the man= God in the flesh the fulness of the Godhead.

Praying to the Father....example to us how to pray in the Spirit.
His cry on the cross...Holy Spirit(the Father) couldn't stay where sin was.
Jesus being glorified....Uniting of His Ghost...Holy Ghost with his resurrected body

Jesus in me the hope of glory.

to God the Father and Jesus Christ same as saying Owner and Gm Donald Trump.....

No man has seen God at anytime in His natural state not even the elders in the days of Moses all they saw was an epiphany of God as a man.

Jesus is our ark of the covenant....if you were to see God without the body of Jesus you would be destroyed He is the physical mercy seat.

Just because some Rabbi or other decides something doesn't make it so....My revelation is Holy Ghost given...yours is the opinion of men.

Elohim...plural intensive...Singular meaning

2) (plural intensive - singular meaning)

a) god, goddess

b) godlike one

c) works or special possessions of God

d) the (true) God

e) God

Funny I don't see any reference to "gods"

Echad
1) one (number)

a) one (number)

b) each, every

c) a certain

d) an (indefinite article)

e) only, once, once for all

f) one...another, the one...the other, one after another, one by one

g) first

h) eleven (in combination), eleventh (ordinal)

You want to change scripture to fit...go for it...
I just write it as written...
      

I think I gga...gee..guuh..get it now! Get saved, cause the unbeliever may not understand or get it*; unless the "New Birth" is evidenced in our lives by our actions, and the power of the Spirit of Christ!

*Holy Spirit

Dear brothers
Remember the larger lost in this astounding account in the book of Exodus is the all-important First Commandment, establishing "Who" it was that gave these laws to ancient Israel in the wilderness.
This commandment must be firmly established in your mind from the outset of the book. I repeat: It lies at the heart of all religion.

Moses recorded God’s words: “You shall have no other gods before Me” (Ex. 20:3).

Surely, if the Bible is the inspired instruction book of an all-wise and all-powerful Creator God (Col1:15,16), who was also the only true God for Israel in the universe, His first commandment could not have been otherwise.
Under no circumstances would that God want other gods worshipped in His place.
In fact, in the very next commandment, the Author of these laws describes Himself as “a jealous God.”

Notice this second, longer command: “You shall not make unto you any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow down yourself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord your God am a jealous God” (vs. 4-5). This commandment is a very broad, sweeping, explicit prohibition intended to cover every form of false worship involving every other kind of supposed “god,” and representation of such, that human beings with creative human reasoning could devise.
Like any parent whose children chose to come home to a different house and to different parents after school, the Parent who made all human beings—His children—would certainly be jealous if they went off after idols and false gods.

The single most important knowledge in the universe would be that of the true God. What could be more important than which god one worships? Millions, indeed billions, have asked who and what is God? This all-important question has confounded man for millennia.

Do not forget brothers : With the explosion of new and different brands of Christianity, this confusion about God has only grown worse in the modern age. And the so-called “great religions” of the world have only added to this confusion. Yet, correctly identifying the true God is the central issue and question towering over everything that is important in life. The answer to this question lies at the very core of all that is true religion. And, for those who believe the God of Creation authored the Bible—Christians!—the question comes into sharper focus. Who and What is the God of the Bible?

Millions of professing Christians believe in, speak of and weekly sing about God as a “trinity”—“Father, Son and Holy Spirit.” Acceptance of this god has become perhaps the greatest litmus test of orthodox or traditional Christianity. But is the Bible’s God a trinity—three persons in one being? Can this be proven? Or is God a Family—and can this be proven? If the “trinity god” is false—if it is not the God of the Bible—it must be rejected. In its place must come an understanding of the true God.

So to who must we Go to have inside in what God is and the "true gods family" ?
Would we go to your neighbour and ask him about your father ?
No of course not ,so to who did you go then to find your answers
Did you go to some religion men who teach you who your Faher is ?

I did once and see what become of this choose ,I became their prisoner for many years.

But God himself is calling you to come to the light.
1Thes.  5:5 You are all children of light, and children of the day. We don’t belong to the night, nor to darkness,
Yoch12:35 Yeshua therefore said to them, “Yet a little while the light is with you. Walk while you have the light, that darkness doesn’t overtake you. He who walks in the darkness doesn’t know where he is going.  12:36 While you have the light, believe in the light, that you may become children of light.” Yeshua said these things, and he departed and hid himself from them.  12:37 But though he had done so many signs before them, yet they didn’t believe in him,  12:38 that the word of Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spoke,

“Lord, who has believed our report?
    To whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”

12:39 For this cause they couldn’t believe, for Isaiah said again,
12:40 “He has blinded their eyes and he hardened their heart,
    lest they should see with their eyes,
    and perceive with their heart,
    and would turn,
    and I would heal them.”*
But as today ,they loved men’s praise more than God’s praise.

The Bible says : you must put aside all bias when reading this book.

for“No one puts a piece from a new garment on an old garment, or else he will tear the new, and also the piece from the new will not match the old.  Luce 5:37 No one puts new wine into old wineskins, or else the new wine will burst the skins, and it will be spilled, and the skins will be destroyed.  5:38 But new wine must be put into fresh wineskins, and both are preserved.  5:39 No man having drunk old wine immediately desires new, for he says, ‘The old is better.’”

Ask god to guide you ,open the scripture and if you enter it with an open mind, once the evidence is laid out, you will be able to make a clear choice. This means that you must be willing to confess mistakes about beliefs and convictions, which in this case may have been held for a lifetime.

In the book of Acts, the writer Luke describes those of the Greek city of Berea as “…more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so” (17:11). These new converts were open-minded—but they wanted proof. In all points, they turned to God’s Word as their sole source of truth on matters of doctrine.

This is why Paul wrote the following instruction to us regarding every doctrine of the Bible: “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good”
(I Thes. 5:21). Nowhere did Paul ever state, “Just trust me.” He wanted people to stand on the rock (holy spirit )and the Holy Scripture on all matters.

Yoch14:16,17
Only gods spirit can open our eyes and see the truth ,
history did proof how easy men are deceived by them self by  remembering scriptures alone with out God spirit to guide them ;
Read what happend in : Yoch 7;38-44

Further, he told the Romans, “Prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God” (12:1-2).

So what did we learn from history ?
That those who say we can see are blind?

Yoch 7;38-44 Yeshua stood and cried out, “If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink!  7:38 He who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, from within him will flow rivers of living water.”  7:39 But he said this about the Spirit, which those believing in him were to receive. For the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Yeshua wasn’t yet glorified.

7:40 Many of the multitude therefore, when they heard these words, said, “This is truly the Prophet.” 7:41 Others said, “This is the Messiah.” But some said, “What, does the Messiah come out of Galilee? 7:42 Hasn’t the Scripture said that the Messiah comes of the seed of David,* and from Bethlehem,* the village where David was?” 7:43 So there arose a division in the multitude because of him.

Yoch 88:33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s seed, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How do you say, ‘You will be made free?’”

8:34 Yeshua answered them, “Most certainly I tell you, everyone who commits sin is the bondservant of sin. 8:35 A bondservant doesn’t live in the house forever. A son remains forever. 8:36 If therefore the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed. 8:37 I know that you are Abraham’s seed, yet you seek to kill me, because my word finds no place in you. 8:38 I say the things which I have seen with my Father; and you also do the things which you have seen with your father.”

8:39 They answered him, “Our father is Abraham.”

Yeshua said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. 8:40 But now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God. Abraham didn’t do this. 8:41 You do the works of your father.”

They said to him, “We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father, God.”

8:42 Therefore Yeshua said to them, “If God were your father, you would love me, for I came out and have come from God. For I haven’t come of myself, but he sent me. 8:43 Why don’t you understand my speech? Because you can’t hear my word. 8:44 You are of your father, the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and doesn’t stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks on his own; for he is a liar, and its father. 8:45 But because I tell the truth, you don’t believe me. 8:46 Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? 8:47 He who is of God hears the words of God. For this cause you don’t hear, because you are not of God.”