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ohn 5:43 (King James Version)

43I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.


clear proof that Jesus is saying One.

1. jesus being sent in his Father name would be receive.

2. somone sent in his OWN name not receive.

so how do we see this verse?


easy The father given Jesus AUTHORITY to speak for HIM and The Father Given him ALL POWER.


This verse is  not saying Jesus is The Father but Jesus speaks in The authority of the father.

Don't take this as me hassling you, but I am curious to know how you reconcile; the Father speaking on the mount of transfiguration, Yeshua saying He only spoke what He heard His Father speak, David's
part about the L_rd saying to my L-ord.

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yes I had it backwards for a second

but then again prophet look again Jesus is saying if One comes in his own name they would receive him.


why would Jesus say this if He is literal the father? would not go against his own words if another comes in his own name they will be receive if Jesus was not?



His NAME was JESES ergo Father's NAME is JESUS and the Father was in Christ which is why Jesus said if you see Him you see the Father..and also why he said "if ye had known me you would have known the Father and now see him." which fulfills Isaiah...he will be called Everlasting Father.  


there you go again skiping basic english.


you can not deny jesus is talking to him self and praying to himself if he is all 3 of the manifestations.

and yet you say  we twist Isaiah 9:6 making Jesus The father and yet with grammar back up from people who have study the hebrew language etc.... made it clear jesus is Father of eternal he was ever never created and this verse is saying that.

You have no back up for your claims on isaiah 9:6 other then yours.

Scholars people who Know the language would disagree with you.

so before you start throwing out accusations I twisting grammar or whatever  PROVE IT NOT BY JUST ASSUSATIONS BUT WITH EVIDENCE FOR YOUR SIDE NOT JUST YOUR OPINION.


Nope....Jesus is the physical manifestation OF THE FATHER just as He said He was....and just as Paul said He was..

2Cr 5:19 To wit, that God(Father) was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.  

Jhn 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.  

(and before you go saying image again He was talking about the father and had been asked to show the father....you want to change the context to fit your theory go ahead)

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest(created) in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.  



http://www.eliyah.com/cgi-bin/strongs.cg...ndex=Image


oh what the The greek context say what an Image is?

I see texts that say a copy a representation or resemblance but nothing that would make Image make someone literal someone else.


I given you the evidence from the greek if you want to twist it go ahead but I will stick to what the Greek have image to be.

John.11
[26] And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

If the question above is saved from eternal death- this is the answer Y'shua gave. If the answer is saved to an abundant life- this is the answer Y'shua gave. Let us keep in mind, Y'shua did something we could never do! I believe He wants to bless us also! HE IS!

It is a lot more than putting on a fair show in the flesh, or supposing that an abundance of wealth or material possessions and giving to charity and being a law abiding citizen will get it. Although, having an abundance of wealth or material possessions and giving to charity and being a law abiding citizen will certainly not exclude you! It is a lot more.
It is loving Christ more than anything else. Yes, even your wife. Yes, even yourself. Your Mom, your Brother, your sister, your Father, your car, your motorcycle, have to go, if ever you should have to choose betwixt Christ and them. It is a blessing to see God does not ask us all to do what Christ did!

Last but not least, Y'shua himself will decide who is saved or not. The Holy Scriptures are certainly our guide, yet without the Holy Spirit we have no power to live for Christ. May the Holy Spirit continue to bless those who desire Him, His chastening AND His approval!

Happy Hannukah, Merry Christmas and Happy Rosh Hoshannah!

nice to have a reasonable voice for a change...

your first question is simple....
God(Father) was in Christ reconciling Himself to man just as the Holy GHost is now in us...Now the all of the Holy Ghost is not in us any more than All of God(Father) was in Jesus.   So is it strange that God(the Father) spoke form heaven?
   Peter spoke only what the Holy Ghost(Jesus) gave him to speak in the same way the Holy Spirit(Father) gave Jesus to speak. It was the Holy
Spirit(Father)speaking through Him.
  David had a vision in which God's(Father's) spoke to the risen glorifed Messiah...it was a vision of the future Messiah AFTER His crucifiction and resurrection.    

HE also said:

[size=large]Jhn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jhn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love [/size]

He commanded how to be baptised(28:19)
He commanded to repent and be baptised in Jesus Name(Acts 2:38)

28:19 when He was with His disciples
Acts 2:38 speaking through Peter as the Holy Ghost

you above scripture is true....there will be people who will say "did we not cast out devils,heal the sick,raise the dead" and He shall say depart from me I never knew you.
   They obviously beleived in Him..They will live forever and they will never die....but they will be in the lake of fire.

Jesus wants more than belief.....If you believe...you'll keep His commandments....You will be sealed by His Name...but to be sealed you have to know who He is....and you don't.
   Jesus said it Himself.....If you had known me you would have known the Father....and apparently you don't konw which of the 73 Names of God He is talking about.

Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

God(Father) was king over all of Israel until they wanted their own king...He came Himself in the flesh and is now King of Israel
Father's Name is Jesus....the sacrifice was Jesus aka Immanuel(God with us) He rose bodily and was glorified and poured Himself out as the Holy Ghost prior to this God's Holy Spirit/Ghost entered individuals now He pours Himself out on all that obey His command to repent and be baptised in Jesus Name.

We are adopted...my daughter who is adopted has my Name...I have God's Name aka my Father by adoption..whose Name do you have?
The key to knowing who Jesus really is is knowing His Father's Name.
  Trinitarians don't know which Name that would be..they don't even know the Name of the Holy Ghost.    
        

It's reasonable because I know there is deeper revelation in everything. Without exception, when pressing in over the years, I have found one doctrine after another, fall to the revelation of the hidden manna. Few there be that find it, and it's almost a red flag to me now if it is "mainstream" of the "masses".

I do believe in the trinity, however, for the mark of the 3's in scripture is undeniable, it's all through there. But I cannot say I have revelation given by the Spirit knowledge/understanding of it all, which is why I generally avoid discussions on it, because I try to only give out what has been made life and confirmed by the Spirit personally to me, as I do not want to give account of every idle (means unemployed, as in used by the Spirit) word. The 3's are my witness at present.

We can know things intellectually but it does add one cubit to the measure of our stature of Christ in us, and I have found it expedient to practice restraint and discerning of Spirit to avoid sharing that which I do not know by the Spirit, for anything else is only vain (empty of the Spirit) imagination. Blessings to you....

sigh as before we given the name of the holy spirit ans we even given you the name.

you need a new tactis because even the son does not know the day or hour but only the Father.

so it clear jesus coming in his father name means he came to speak in his authority he was given by his father.