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sigh as before we given the name of the holy spirit ans we even given you the name.

you need a new tactis because even the son does not know the day or hour but only the Father.

so it clear jesus coming in his father name means he came to speak in his authority he was given by his father.
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Sure you have...where is the scripture to back it up....any one can throw out a "name" but you don't have the scripture to back it..

Right...the flesh/human side did not know the hour or time...that isn't surprising...I have the Holy Ghost but He doesn't show me everything only what I need to know today...Holy GHost/Father in Jesus didn't show Him everything either only what He needed to know at the time.

No is isn't...Jesus the man was the veil that seperated man from God...Jesus came in the Name of His Father which is Jesus with all authority and power of His Father that went with His Father's Name...He didn't come to us in his own name as we do when we witness to people but in the Name of God...and that Name is Jesus.

He was the everlasting Father/Father in etenity(same thing) in the flesh but He was also flesh and blood and spirit as we are.


1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

That is One Almighty God whose name is Jesus


1Jo 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

This is  the man who came in the Name of the Father and in whom the Father dwelt.....Jesus

I come in the name of Sugerman I only have your authority such as it is
but obviusly I'm not you

difference with Jesus is that when He came in His Father's Name He not only came with the authority he also came with His Father indwelling Him so when He stated that "If you had know me you should have known the Father and now see him" that is what He meant not his image but the Father Himself.    

      

Sure you have...where is the scripture to back it up....any one can throw out a "name" but you don't have the scripture to back it.

Ripley and me given you scriptures many of times and it you who has never taken the time to debate us on the stand we take.

You like to ake what we say and read it anyway you want.


Right...the flesh/human side did not know the hour or time...that isn't surprising...I have the Holy Ghost but He doesn't show me everything only what I need to know today...Holy GHost/Father in Jesus didn't show Him everything either only what He needed to know at the time.

again you have a problem you said that God plays all parts.

if he plays all parts then his knowledge would be in all parts.

you can not limit God knowledge prophet.



No is isn't...Jesus the man was the veil that seperated man from God...Jesus came in the Name of His Father which is Jesus with all authority and power of His Father that went with His Father's Name...He didn't come to us in his own name as we do when we witness to people but in the Name of God...and that Name is Jesus.

Now your switching Theology at first you said jesus is the father now your saying Jesus came in the Authority of The father please read both terms they do not mean the same thing.

Being sent in the Authority of means someone had sent you in his name being literal The father you send your self in that name.

You said your self God plays all parts father son holy spirit.


He was the everlasting Father/Father in etenity(same thing) in the flesh but He was also flesh and blood and spirit as we are.

Jesuus God begotten Son not made but begotten from father from all etenity.


1Jo 5:7

1Jo 5:8  

these verses were not even in the bible until the8-10 century way after the death of the apostles. If you are so concern keeping apostle doctrine you better look else where for something to back you up.


difference with Jesus is that when He came in His Father's Name He not only came with the authority he also came with His Father indwelling Him so when He stated that "If you had know me you should have known the Father and now see him" that is what He meant not his image but the Father Himself.    

poor logic I guess having the Hg in you makes you literal the father also.

This is like saying sense we are all one with Jesus hen we are all Jesus himself or God.

Sure you have...where is the scripture to back it up....any one can throw out a "name" but you don't have the scripture to back it..

Right...the flesh/human side did not know the hour or time...that isn't surprising...I have the Holy Ghost but He doesn't show me everything only what I need to know today...Holy GHost/Father in Jesus didn't show Him everything either only what He needed to know at the time.

No is isn't...Jesus the man was the veil that seperated man from God...Jesus came in the Name of His Father which is Jesus with all authority and power of His Father that went with His Father's Name...He didn't come to us in his own name as we do when we witness to people but in the Name of God...and that Name is Jesus.

He was the everlasting Father/Father in etenity(same thing) in the flesh but He was also flesh and blood and spirit as we are.


1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

That is One Almighty God whose name is Jesus


1Jo 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

This is  the man who came in the Name of the Father and in whom the Father dwelt.....Jesus

I come in the name of Sugerman I only have your authority such as it is
but obviusly I'm not you

difference with Jesus is that when He came in His Father's Name He not only came with the authority he also came with His Father indwelling Him so when He stated that "If you had know me you should have known the Father and now see him" that is what He meant not his image but the Father Himself.    

      
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so pretty much sense you claim  you have the indwelling just like Jesus had you are a walking talking jesus Christ himself.

I mean did you not say  when someone ask let me see jesus and your reply your looking at him?

this is the same as saying I'm jesus christ in the flesh

to corect my self 1 john 5;7 may be scripturrre in fact but still it does not mean what you say prophet,

read it and these 3 are one not that there is one playing all 3

http://www.scionofzion.com/1_john_5_78.htm

What?
Your still knawing this bone?
I don't see why you simply insist on worshipping 3 Gods, sugar...?

Oy Vey!
What can be done with you...

there are three that bear witness in Sugarman's household...

the father,the uncle and the son and these three are one....Sugarman

One person playing all three...oops that's not possible now we all know...Sugarman isn't one person he's three persons just no one has ever seen the other two persons.

God says He is One
God says there is NO OTHER SAVIOUR BESIDE HIM
God is called our Yeshua(Jesus) in Isaiah
God will not share His Glory with another

Jesus is equal to God because He is God there is no other persons or wotherwise

You can't believe that God can be all three manifestations so you use your finite mind to bring him to your level.
   You claim to have the Holy Ghost why don't you listen to Him instead of your own imaginations...

Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,      

Because like I said for million of times it ONE GOD ONE ESSENCE who exist as 3 distinct persons.


It not about three essence but One it not 3 gods but One it not 3 beings but One being

Prophet~



Why do you insist we need to know the name of the Holy Ghost, when according to you it is Jesus? You have some other secret name of Him? Any secret handshakes we should also know? (Like the Masons' who strive to find a secret name of God... that they already claim to know?)

Steadfast~



I don't know why you continue to bear false witness...you might not agree with us, but misrepresenting our view is sin.

God says He is One
God says there is NO OTHER SAVIOUR BESIDE HIM
God is called our Yeshua(Jesus) in Isaiah
God will not share His Glory with another

you do not get it do you?


we do not believe God shares his glory with no one.


we do not believe in 3 saviors or 2 but One savior who is jesus and also God.

there are three that bear witness in Sugarman's household...

the father,the uncle and the son and these three are one....Sugarman

One person playing all three...oops that's not possible now we all know...Sugarman isn't one person he's three persons just no one has ever seen the other two persons.


Not scripture again you hate matt 28:19 because it does not fit your view.

Go look in the greek prophet of matt 28:19 and if you think it just my mind trying to makes things up then you are pretty Ignorant of the biblical text.


Jesus is equal to God because He is God there is no other persons or wotherwise


wrong read matt 28:19 if you Look  in greek garmmar the wording And in The name of holy ghost, And in the name etc.....

The word and here separate each  persons if it was all the same it would read.

In the name of The father, son, holy ghost.

ou can't believe that God can be all three manifestations so you use your finite mind to bring him to your level.
   You claim to have the Holy Ghost why don't you listen to Him instead of your own imaginations...

Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,      

1. No i do not believe what you make God but I do go with from what The greek text of the Nt make God.