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What mistakes?

You are the one teaching that we are God and God is us.

You are the one insisting that our salvation depends on us and not God.

I am simply refuting you.

as for this:


I will direct you, once again, to the FOUNDATIONAL BELIEFS/TEACHINGS OF THIS WEBSITE:
The Trinity: Questions and Answers
A link from the Answers Page: Christian Distinctives: The Trinity
Baptism: Pagan or Jewish?

A snipet from that article:


-emphasis mine-

Ripley, I am amazed at how pathetic and ignorant you really are when it comes to what is actually written in the bible and what it all means. You babble on like you know what you are talking about and yet you are so in need of a good teacher. Wait a minute, I did try to teach you but you know everything!

Re: Paul and Baptism

This is really so very sad that you can not search the bible and see what is right before your eyes.

Not ONLY did Paul get baptized in Jesus name, Jesus himself told Paul to do so.

Acts 9 read it all.

17 .....Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

Acts 19

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, .... that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Believe on Him and be baptized in His name.

1Corinthians 1:

14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;

15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.

16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.

17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:

Paul did baptise and he taught baptism in Jesus name... Read the whole chapter as it is self explanatory.

Paul was the biggest teacher in Baptism and new more more about Christ and the high Calling then any others.

Anyway Ripley once again you shoot your mouth off and you show everyone on this board how little you really understand.

As you can see I have lost my patience with you and your agressive attitude against the truth.

Keep quiet and learn something before it is to late.

Get Saved!

Regeneration comes when you are baptized into Jesus...not John's baptism.

Why did Jesus get baptized?

Matthew 3:
13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.

14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Lots of people getting baptized folks, thousands, in fact it was about three thousand one day alone.

Believe in Jesus and get baptized and that puts you in the Church. So many scriptures yet you are all so blind.

Trying to get to heaven by any other means the following Jesus is a thief and a robber.

From Post #1
John 10
1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

1Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Having a good conscience toward God is to have your sins remitted.

There is no logic on this board, even you are not reading what I have posted about baptism, you are just spewing out your opinion and I could care less about opinions.

I have explained baptism from every angle and it is still falling on deaf ears. My goal is to get you saved, I want to be responsible for getting people saved yet I am shock at how damaged people's beliefs are have become from years of hearing false doctrines.

Gussing on salvation based on your logic is very scary and sad.

Like I have said before, the true meaning of believe has been lost. Everyone back then that believed got baptized or they weren't called believers. Believe and be baptized.

"If you had a passage that said you MUST BOTH believe and be baptized, then we would have a contradiction in Scripture because there is no intersection between the two statements."



maybe you sould read the first part of that verse


The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us



He not saying baptism saves. he saying baptism a figure of what saves not  that baptism literal saves.


I think your the one with deaf ears.

nevertheless, the true believer is not intimidated by the Campbellite’s misuse of Mark 16:16 because the verse does not teach baptismal regeneration--in or out of its proper context-- and it certainly does not teach that "faith plus baptism equals salvation!"  The verse plainly says, ". . . he that believeth not shall be damned."  One is damned for not believing.  No one is damned for not being baptized.   It is the sin of unbelief that damns the lost soul to Hell, and this is very well confirmed by many portions of Scripture, which Delton Haun chooses to ignore in his tract. Please note the following:



But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. (John 1:12)



That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.  He that believeth on him is not condemned, but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  (John 3:15-18)



He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.  (John 3:36)



Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life; and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.  (John 5:24)



Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. (John 6:47)



. . . . Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (Acts 16:30-31)



But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. (Romans 4:5)



That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Romans 10:9)



Wherefore also it is contained in the scriptures, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief cornerstone, elect, precious:  and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.  (I Peter 2:6)



Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:  And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.  Believest thou this? (John 11:25-26)





http://www.biblebaptistpublications.org/...hrist.html

willby you still not answer my question.



if bapstism is a like figure (symbolic of what saves us) then how does it literal save us?


do you not understand when peter is saying like figure baptism is symbolic of our confessing to God and accpet Christ into our life?

http://www.gotquestions.org/baptism-Mark-16-16.html



also willby scholars have   some doubt that mark 16:16-20 was in the originals

willby if I told you it was raining cats and dogs would you believe in literal cats or dogs or believe it is a figure of speech?