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I hope this is ok to bring my questions here. I appreciate the wisdom and knowledge of scripture I find among most of you.

Here is another list of objections revolving around the issue of Jesus' annointing:

"Jesus Christ was not annointed by a universally recognozed prophet and he is not G-d

rules for anointing

the Biblical accounts of the anointing of the first three kings of Israel, Saul, David, and Solomon, contain the necessary elements for the construction of a template for the process of anointing royalty of Israel, one of which will be the promised Jewish Messiah. According to the Hebrew Bible, these elements are:

[1] A special preparation from pure olive oil was used as the oil of anointing.

[2] Being sacred, the anointing oil was stored in the Temple.

[3] A universally recognized prophet performed the ritual of anointing a king.

[4] The prophets used the vial of oil, or the horn of oil, to anoint the new king, not merely a vial of oil or a horn of oil.[1]

[5] The oil of anointing was poured only on the head.

[6] Anointing was tantamount to crowning a king (or appointing a high priest).

what the NT say about Jesus

[1] The substance used to anoint Jesus was an ointment of spikenard.[3]

[1] It is unknown from where the costly ointment of spikenard came. It clearly was not a sacred substance, since people complained about having wasted it by pouring it on Jesus rather than selling it and giving the money to the poor.

[2] Jesus was anointed by a woman (Mary of Bethany, described as a sinner).

[3] The ointment used on Jesus was contained in an alabaster box.[4]

[4] There are conflicting accounts in the New Testament about where on his body the anointing substance was applied to Jesus. The accounts in the Gospels of Matthew and Mark say it was applied to his head; while the accounts in the Gospels of Luke and John state it was applied to his feet only.

[5] Jesus declared that his anointing was a preparation for burial, i.e., for death, and not for kingship.[5]

II. The Anointing of Jesus Contrasted with the Requirements in the Hebrew Bible"

Jesus was anointed by the spikenard for His burial, according to His own words (as cited by Matthew 26:12).  Therefore, any anointing by the prophet, must be prior to this incident.  
John the Baptist was a universally recognized prophet of Israel until the post-70 A.D. survivors chose to write him out of their history, for whatever reason.  Anointing is a shallow form of baptism.  However, John was not known to have anointed with oil.
The 3 magi are unknown to us, yet recognized by the advisors of King Herod, and by King Herod himself as genuine.  One of the gifts was myrrh, an ingredient both for embalming (as was done at Jesus' death), and an ingredient for anointing.  Why did Herod slay every infant under a certain age?  Because, if the magi had anointed the true heir Yeshua as king, this would hold the same weight as the prophet Samuel had done so with both Saul and David.  By process of elimination, we see that if Jesus was anointed, it was done at Bethlehem; but though we cannot prove it, neither can our opponents disprove this claim.  The preponderence of the evidence rests in favor of a Bethlehem anointing by one or all 3 magi.  That's my opinion.  What do you think?  Has any one else some other info?

Comfycozzie,

Matt.3:16,17
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, see, the heavens were opened to him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting on him:
17  And see a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

1. Judaism (orthodox, Counter-missionary) sets its own rules, especially through the later rabbies, and demands God to subject to them. Where in the HT is this protocol for the Messiah-King described? The concept of a futur personal Messiah-King is not that clear in the HT (=OT). This expectancy of the coming Messiah has developped after the HT had been written.

2. Judaism wants the material, earthly things. Christianity is about the life in and through the Spirit, that Christ brought. 'Oil' symbolizes the Spirit. When in the HT a person was annointed, he then became inspired, he received the Spirit of God (1 Sam.10). The oil was an image and a symbol of that Spirit of God. Also 'water' is a symbol of the life/righteousness of the Spirit. Judaism worries about the right oil, but God 'worries' about the true and Holy Spirit, as the real annointment. Of course this is all signs, symbols and images, surely not convincing to CM-Judaism, but maybe convincing for you. The voice of God that spoke 'This is my beloved Son' and confirmed this by the annointment of His Spirit, is more valid then whatever voice of whatever important prophet with the right oil, wouldn't you think?

3. Jesus is baptized by John (Matt.3), and the Holy Spirit 'descended on Him'. God Himself annointed His chosen One, to be His Messiah-King. God did that by proclaiming that He is His Beloved (=true 'David', wich means beloved). Jesus was publicly declared to be the Messiah-King of the God of Israel, and Israel, and all man, are called upon to listen to Him.

4.    http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM        Check this Catechism of the Catholic Church. There is a lot to learn there; and it will protect you from the false teachings of, let me say, the Counter-missionary-Judaism. I don't want to generalize towards all forms of Judaism.

God bless you.
Aad

Dear Friend.
In the time of expectation the Messiah came, like the the Lord-God had promised from the beginning (read Genesis).
Jesus is King and High Priest.
You ask about His anointing. Well I will tell you about the Sign of Contradiction which Jesus calls Himself.
He was anointed for His death, yes you are right, indeed. Do you, however, realize what this death is?

The Royal Purple of this King is His Blood.

The Crown are the thorns with which you and I have crowned Him.

The Throne of this King is the Cross.

"But I," said Jesus; "when I am liftet up from the earth, will draw all men to myself". (John 12, 32)
On the cross He liftet all men into His Heart and told the Father: It is accompliched, here are Your Children. Like Abraham was willing to give his most beloved son, the Father gave His most beloved Son, so that until this day He will save, save and save.

How will anyone come into the Kingdom unshielded by the price payed; the Blood of Jesus. You cannot save your self. By touching the Arch men died in the time of the Old Covenant. But you think you can step into the Holy Light of God without recognizing the Great Victim.

He loves you dearly. Truly, if He could make you love Him and accept Him as your saviour he would come back, just for you, to repeat His Passion. Such is His love.

Praized be His Name. My friend. You must pray to understand the mystery of the Kingdom and this Kingship, for truly, it is not of this world.

Amen.