All I am saying is you shouldn't encourage distinction between Jew or Gentile. I don't know if you guys realised this is the impression the site gives.
In Christ,
Tony
The intial impression I received from this site is
not that it encourages a distinction between Jew and Gentile concerning Christ. My impression is
it advocates inclusion between Jew and Gentile. However I will agree that it's possible for someone to feel the former way.
JFJ are a very organized ministry, they have a mission,
"We exist to make the messiahship of Jesus an unavoidable issue to our Jewish people worldwide."
Concidering their target audience and I would have an educated guess, that through
many years of experience. The questions on the contact form, Jew or non-Jew, believer or non-believer are there for
necessary practical purposes, not spiritual ones.
I'm sorry but the trinity is not so my cup of tea. I never completely understood the puzzle of terms the churches wanted to use for it. For me HaShem is One. Point and thanks.
I understand that yetzirah, but I only wanted to point out that the Trinity is not just "Catholic doctrine". No more than the Shema is "Orthodox doctrine"... we hold it as truth because
the scriptures teach it. And just because there is dissention is no reason, in itself, to disregard it. Even Jews aren't of one mind, doesn't mean we throw the baby out (God's word) with the bathwater (man's understanding).
Concidering their target audience and I would have an educated guess, that through many years of experience. The questions on the contact form, Jew or non-Jew, believer or non-believer are there for necessary practical purposes, not spiritual ones.
Exactly.
The purpose of Jesus?? UNITY! He demonstrated love to BOTH Jew and Gentile. He came down hard on both Jew and Gentile. But yet He still demonstrated a divine love for Jew and Gentile; however, I will always believe that the Jews are God's chosen people and that Israel is the apple of His eye. Jesus himself even referred to the Jews as his "brethren" and just how important they were to him. (Matthew 25:40) All over scripture he speaks of loving our brother(s). I believe in my opinion of the scriptures, that he is referring to the Jew and Gentile relationship.
It brings me to another point with uberduber's original post. When reading Romans 11, Paul explains "arrogance". The Gentiles were included (by Jesus) in God's merciful plan that should humble us (Gentiles), not fill us with arrogance. The PARTIAL hardening of Israel is not permanent..just temporary. But if Gentiles start to become arrogant, God will easily cut us off and put the other branches (the natural ones) back in place. So, what I'm trying to say is that Jesus came as a unity. When he died, his arms were stretched out both ways; his body of course in the middle. He offered salvation to all who believed but we can't forget that God, the Diety still had and still does have a plan for all Jewish people; believers in Jesus or not. He still has a plan for them. Can we judge them or their eternity based on what is taught in the general Christian church(es)?? Absolutely NOT.
Just my little tidbit for what its worth :-) ...Peace!