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For all of you criticizing me and calling me a pretender or not a Jewish woman, I have copies of documents, e-mails from a distant cousin of my dad, and other evidence that I'm patrilineally Jewish.

  1. Daat Emet
  2. Dr. Shaye Cohen, as J.R. Wilhelm cited, argued:

    Quote:

    What, then, is the reason for matrilineal descent? If traditional Judaism does not reckon Jewish identity by matrilineal descent for any of the reasons outlined above, what is the reason? Professor Shaye Cohen, who devoted an entire chapter to the origins of matrilineal descent in his book The Beginnings of Jewishness6, was ultimately forced to admit that he has no idea why the rabbis chose to break with biblical practice and institute matrilineality7. There is no clear reason that Judaism has to be matrilineal, except that it has been so for many centuries.

    And there is even less reason that we should accept discrimination supported not merely by bad reasons, but by no reason at all.





A document that prove my Jewishness shows the name of Katarzyna Danilowicz, Julius' mother. By the way, I'm sharing this for only my personal use and to show that I'm patrilineally Jewish.





Great finally the Daat Emet, and other tekst. I will read it some day...

What does the mother has to do with it, if you claim it is from the fathers side? Besides that I don't see Jewish written on the document, did I miss it? and it is a state document....
Interesting might also the date of Burial... for I can't read it so clearly.

But anyway good to have those documents! Keep it safe from disappearing!
GoyOfY'shua Wrote:

A document that prove my Jewishness shows the name of Katarzyna Danilowicz, Julius' mother. By the way, I'm sharing this for only my personal use and to show that I'm patrilineally Jewish.





By the way, to those who raise the point that I'd earlier stated that Alexandria couldn't speak English, she couldn't; and just because she apparently writes English doesn't mean that she wrote any part of the death certificate, but that one of her children may have told her what to write or written for her.
Yetzirah231 Wrote:

Great finally the Daat Emet, and other tekst. I will read it some day...

What does the mother has to do with it, if you claim it is from the fathers side? Besides that I don't see Jewish written on the document, did I miss it? and it is a state document....
Interesting might also the date of Burial... for I can't read it so clearly.

But anyway good to have those documents! Keep it safe from disappearing!


My paternal great-granddad Anthony Czarnecki was born to Julius Felix (Julian) and Alexandria Andrulewicz Czarnecki; and Julius' parents were Antoni and Katarzyna Danilowicz Czarnecki, and "Danilo" or "Dani'el" came into the Polish and Russian languages from the Jewish people who were exiled to Europe during the Diaspora. During Antoni and Katarzyna's days even up to Anthony's sons' days, no Jewish person would marry a gentile or vice versa unless they wanted to be ostracized; and a maternal distant cousin of my dad's went up to where Julius was buried as a Jewish-Polish immigrant who settled and was buried in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, finding that Julius' stone was gone from the Roman Catholic cemetery in which he was buried.
What exactly do you hope to gain from your genes?

I haven't questioned your lineage, but I do wonder what it is that makes you think you have some kind of "advantage"...

Ripley's Wrote:

What exactly do you hope to gain from your genes?

I haven't questioned your lineage, but I do wonder what it is that makes you think you have some kind of "advantage"...





See Matthew 10, Romans 1-3 and 9-12.
1) Why do YOU WANT to consider yourself Jewish?


2)Who else's opinion of your Jewishness (or non-Jewishness) do you CARE about?


3) What would you have to CHANGE to be recognized as Jewish (or not) by the people in Question 2?
Thanks, GoyOfYeshua.

Sounds indeed interesting.
So you have some Jewish blood, and by that you feel Jewish, Great. For the rest I just don't know. it might be hard to proof it to the Rabbi's like this. King David, and others also had to proof that they where Jewish at the Rabbi's...
but I don't know about Poland. In Holland and the Czech Republic etc. there where intermarriages a few hundred years ago. Not so much but it did happen.

Good keep the papers, it's nice to have them I think.
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See Matthew 10, Romans 1-3 and 9-12.



Something more specific?
Ripley (Seester), Just go read the entire scriptures (Gen--Rev) and be done with it.

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