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I think it would be a great idea to create new thread titled “Answering the anti missionaries!” and addressing the common repetitive anti missionary objections from this forum. One could argue that this whole forum is refuting the anti missionaries and this is partially true but I am talking about having one thread where we don't side track (because of spam) but precisely answer the accusations.

It would a compilation of the better posts from this forum but we would need access to the edit function on one thread or kindly ask for assistance from one of the Jews for Jesus moderators.

I could do a new webpage but it would it may be easier to do this on here?

Anyone interested? What do you think?

Together we may be able to come up with something of value and most of the work would be editing the better posts.

Blessed be our G-d and Savior Yeshua HaMashiach

Well I don't feel specifically anti-missionary... And I like the discussions more than some answers itself...

To look for more value seems welcome. Maybe the titel Answering the anti-missionaries is a bit far fetched. Maybe better is: ''dealing with the anti-missionary issues'' For most of anti-missionaries have allready there own answers, and might not even actually want feedback. But look in the side-issues.

And to precisely answer? I heard a lot of Messianic or Christian speakers. And if I combine all thoughts I still didn't get a precise answer. Communities and people on this forum also disagree on side issues, sometimes even on basic things. But give it a try if you want.

Well to call it spam? That sounds that it would be a less open forum to discuss things. Because what anti-missionaries do is spam? Or do I get it wrong?

Blessed be the God of Abraham Izaak and Jacob.

That is what the whole forum is for -  but I am simply trying to create a single thread where unity  and agreement between the messianics is the love covering; a common consensus as we remove all leaven, unbelief and objection. The opposing views would be recorded in the question that each post would be answering.

What is the saying... ten Jews in a room and 11 opinions...

Yetzirah231 sometimes we are side tracked by objections that often are not the main point of discussion - this I call spam - this proposed new thread would answer the objection raised by grouping together (echad) the better responses from this forum. The compiled data could then be scanned into the google database for universal search capability.

Messianic often debate the outworking of salvation but we are all in agreement that Messiah came in the flesh and that Jesus Christ as He is known by the nations is the Jewish Messiah.

Yes in this one thread there would be no discussion as such but it would be a messianic work, view point and interpretation. It would be a compilation and a common consensus of answers to the anti-missionary (anti Yeshua) objections.

The thread would serve to summarize the better Messianic arguments from this forum to one single thread or webpage created in the most compact form possible.

Thankyou for your comments Yetzirah231 and may the G-d of our fathers - the G-d of Abraham, the G-d of Isaac, and the G-d of Jacob bless you in all His goodness and shalom.

I think it is a great idea, but there would be an insulting element to
cutting off their best arguments, especially if taken that way.

I think compiling a list of 'best' answers to standard anti-missionary objections is a good idea. I think it will help people since anti-missionaries tend to repetitively use the arguments.

For example: a standard anti-missionary argument is questioning Jesus right to be King. This comes in two forms. 1. Jesus didn't have a father and the right to the throne is inherited thru the father. 2. The Jeconiah curse on Jesus fathers side. There are variations to this argument such as the linage in Matthew is inaccurate etc.

My personal simple answer is that Jesus is of the line of David thru His mother so He is a son of David but Jesus right to the throne is simpler. When God made Saul King, God made it clear that He (God) was rightfully King but the people rejected God as King. Jesus is God and is rightfully King of Israel. It is an honor beyond honors that God so recognized David for his faith, that Jesus who is God, the rightful King, will sit on a throne called David's throne.  

Now some may not like my answer as well as others. Other answers points out that Jeconiah did have a son who sat on the throne which shows the curse was rescinded. Another is that scripture does show land inheritance (which was also tribal based) passing to women whose father did not have sons. There are a couple of other thoughts on this.

I would say, hash it out and when you are ready, I will create a sub-category under 'Why I believe in Jesus' to put the final compiled  answers.    

Ah Thanks Prowler...

The google / wikipedia kind of thing is maybe a good idea. With clear points where different messianic groups stand for... Makes it much more clear...

Now I understand better what you mean with spam...
But anyway Jews who study Babylonian Talmud, are used to this kind of spam... Side-issues sometimes proof the point...
Although the Jerusalem Talmud is more to the point/clear...

Well good luck

1) Jesus is a mythological character.

2) Sacrifice is not mandatory for a "true" relationship with God.

3) Jesus can't be God because God is not a man, that he should lie.

4) Worshipping Jesus as God is against Torah; a creation/idolatry (man).

5) Anyone could be Messiah, if a Messiah is necessary...however it could just be a "Messianic Age" too.

6) Where's the peace? Jesus failed.

7) Isaiah 53 is referring to Israel, not a person.

8) Jesus was anti-Semitic.

(enough?)

Oh, and, the coup de gras: If you knew Hebrew, and studied/understood Torah, you would KNOW that the "GT" and "Jezus" are fabrications. (Only ignorant Jews and gullible gentiles fall for such a story.)

No Jewish or gentile person who is at least partially honest would list 1, 5, or 8 as one of their objections to Christianity.

Bravo Rip,

Don't leave out the dimensions of Ezekiel's temple that were "modified"
by Ezra, Zerubabel and Nehemiah.

DH