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I went to a synagogue for a lecture by antimissionaries on the Passon of the Christ by Mel Gibson.

First, a red haired Jewish lady who looked really upset like she was under conviction of the Holy Spirit asked this question which stumped the lecturer.  "Why doesn't anybody ever name their child Yeshua?" It was an emotional powder keg in there as the refutation of this movie nessisarily included new facts that actually helped move some of them closer to a good view of Jesus.

I take it that some were shocked that it wasn't as antisemitic as they had imagined.

For example, when the lecturer displayed by slide the obligatory picture of Jesus as a bloody mess it was obviously blured from what I had seen in the movie.

And heads snaped around when someone asked what Christians believed and I identified my self as one and proceeded to answer the question.

I said that it was the first time the Av (Father) was separated from the Bar (Son) from all eternity past, so it was spiritual suffering to and not just a bloody mess.  Not to mention propitiation and justification.

Strange thing, it seemed to me like lecturer had to misrepresent what we say in order not to turn him self into a preacher of the gospel.  But the crowd was keeping him honest.  Liberal Ashkanazic Jews are good scholars and he wasn't going to be able to fool them so he was forced to stick to the facts.  It seemed to be a great shock to these people for the first time to hear the gospel in a way they could understand with most of the facts in place.

I didn't get kicked out, but then again afterwards no body was talking to me.

Think about it, from the mother's point of view the history of the name Yeshua and it's frequency as a baby name does testify that there is something about this name.
Yeshua is a short version of His full name YAHU'SHUAH (YHUH)

Many people have named their children Joshua so they have name their children after Jesus/Yeshua in a sence.

Yeshua is shortened from YAHU'SHUAH -- what we call a nick name for someone like Wilby for Wilbert.

Therefore Yeshua's real full legal name is YAHU'SHUAH.

Not many people would call their child YAHU'SHUAH especially knowing that it is the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

The world's wwomen would rather name their children after the Beast... before they have overcome sin.

Once the beast is      the world's women will prefer to name their children after the Christian they most hate... but they will be torn for choice.

Let us hope that God's names for His children become popular!

Poor Judas, perhaps his name is a comfort to Yeshua!
In Talmudic times their are still stories about other Yeshua's also (by name). It's different than Joshua, but related...  In Talmud the famoust sections about another Yeshua are not so positive eather. So maybe that is a side reason, not to call a Son Yeshua.

Chad Higgins. I don't know what facts you are talking about, but o.k.
I saw the movie a while ago. But anyway some parts are old-katholic interpretations. And the movie itself was quite anti-Roman also... So many lashes, he will never have had by the Sanhedrin.
Where The Almighty decided fourty, the rabbi's decided 39.
But the Romans in the movie gave him over 60 I think I counted...

And again (from 1 other chapter on the forum), ''Eli Eli lama sabachtani'' in Arameic might have been better understood by some Liberal Jews than the basic English Translation that is always given to it.
We are not shure if Jesus ment both meanings... Maybe he didn't mean ''forsaken me''. Who Knows? only himself, and The Almighty I hope. But this sentence is by purpose never translated to the Greek...

Nice discription about the spiritual suffering though!!

And besides, if it was for Liberal Jews, they might!! have had less respect for the Priest of Sanhedrin anyway, because they also don't want to be under them... So by that, they might have understand it according to being against fundamentalistic religious people... Jews might be anti-semitic too, or against the religion itself.

What on earth are you talking about?

Godservant Wrote:

The world's wwomen would rather name their children after the Beast... before they have overcome sin.

Once the beast is      the world's women will prefer to name their children after the Christian they most hate... but they will be torn for choice.

Let us hope that God's names for His children become popular!

Poor Judas, perhaps his name is a comfort to Yeshua!
Wilby Wrote:

Yeshua is a short version of His full name YAHU'SHUAH (YHUH)

It is a little more complicated than simply claiming shorthand and laziness.

An argument in favor of the Hebrew form éùåò Yeshua is that the Old Syriac Bible (c. 200 CE) and the Peshitta preserves this same spelling using the equivalent Aramaic letters ܝܫܘܥ to the Hebrew letters of Yeshua. (The modern Syriac now vocalizes the name as Isho, which can be transliterated as éÄùÑåÉò; however, its ancient pronunciation was very similar to the Hebrew éÅùÑåÌòÇ Yeshua`.) These texts were translated from the Greek, but the name is not a simple transliteration of the Greek form because its "sh" sound is not expressed in the Greek (although the Greek has a letter sounding like "s"), and ends with the pharyngeal ‘ayin sound, also not found in Greek. It can be argued that the Aramaic speakers who used this name had a continual connection to the Aramaic-speaking apostles and disciples of Jesus, and thus were able to accurately preserve the actual name used for him.

Yeshua (name) from Wikipedia

Its not the names of Jesus but the revelation of His Name that giveth eternal life.
He is Savior and G-d who came in the flesh!
To which we all say Amen!
GoyOfY'shua Wrote:

What on earth are you talking about?


You are correct: I am on Earth.

It is approximately 397,992 years before you lose it.
Prowler Wrote:

Wilby Wrote:

Yeshua is a short version of His full name YAHU'SHUAH (YHUH)

It is a little more complicated than simply claiming shorthand and laziness.

An argument in favor of the Hebrew form éùåò Yeshua is that the Old Syriac Bible (c. 200 CE) and the Peshitta preserves this same spelling using the equivalent Aramaic letters ܝܫܘܥ to the Hebrew letters of Yeshua. (The modern Syriac now vocalizes the name as Isho, which can be transliterated as éÄùÑåÉò; however, its ancient pronunciation was very similar to the Hebrew éÅùÑåÌòÇ Yeshua`.) These texts were translated from the Greek, but the name is not a simple transliteration of the Greek form because its "sh" sound is not expressed in the Greek (although the Greek has a letter sounding like "s"), and ends with the pharyngeal ‘ayin sound, also not found in Greek. It can be argued that the Aramaic speakers who used this name had a continual connection to the Aramaic-speaking apostles and disciples of Jesus, and thus were able to accurately preserve the actual name used for him.

Yeshua (name) from Wikipedia

Its not the names of Jesus but the revelation of His Name that giveth eternal life.
He is Savior and G-d who came in the flesh!
To which we all say Amen!


I know absolutely nothing about these translations so thanks for the info.

NOW concerning the name Jesus Christ --it is clear to me that this name is acceptable for salvation because as you can see the enemy responds to it and the enemy also causes many people to use this name in coversation while cursing.

Jesus Christ is acceptable today so even though I have learned from this forum other names I strongly believe that Jesus Christ has meaning and power.

So like you said, "Its not the names of Jesus but the revelation of His Name that giveth eternal life."
I like this thread, I mean the responses.  I am not sure I am any closer to and answer, but I think I have thrown out an important question from what I have seen.

One answer I would have given if I was the Gateways Rabbi would be that Latinos name their children Jesus (pronounced hey sooz).  That is the spanish equivalent of Yeshua.

Prowler hit it out of the park on the academic side, but there is also a heart issue here.  Something about the name of Yeshua that was bugging that Jewish lady.
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One answer I would have given if I was the Gateways Rabbi would be that Latinos name their children Jesus (pronounced hey sooz).  That is the spanish equivalent of Yeshua.



I thought of that Chad, but didn't think it really relevant to the topic: Hebrew name.

Maybe it is the reverence, like YHWH? Too presumptuous to name a child the name of God our Savior? Or too cavalier? What about Joshua?

(It is quite common for Mexican families -I don't know about other Latin countries- to name ALL their boys Jesus, and ALL their girls Maria...but only the first of each is called by that. The subsequent kids are called by their middle/second names.)

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