The "Name" in Matthew 28:19
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Likewise, when the disciples are told to go make disciples and baptize, Jesus told them by what authority they were to baptize. In Matthew 28:19: the word "name" is used to represent of the solidarity of authority in the Father, the Son and the holy spirit. Thus to baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit would also signify to baptize by the authority of all three, which authority is total agreement.
As mentioned before, the word "name" is often used singularly as a collective term to denote a commonality even when speaking of many individuals, especially when speaking in the sense of reputation or authority:
* Genesis 5:2 - He created them male and female, and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
* Genesis 48:6 - Your issue, who you become the father of after them, will be yours. They will be called after the name of their brothers in their inheritance
* Deuteronomy 7:24 - He will deliver their kings into your hand, and you shall make their name to perish from under the sky: there shall no man be able to stand before you, until you have destroyed them. See also Deuteronomy 9:14; 12:3
* Deuteronomy 18:20 - But the prophet, who shall speak a word presumptuously in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.
* Ruth 1:2 - The name of the man was Elimelech, and the name of his wife Naomi, and the name of his two sons Mahlon and Chilion, Ephrathites of Bethlehem-judah. They came into the country of Moab, and continued there
* Ezra 2:61 - Of the children of the priests: the children of Habaiah, the children of Hakkoz, the children of Barzillai, who took a wife of the daughters of Barzillai the Gileadite, and was called after their name.
* -- See also: Nehemiah 7:63; Psalm 9:5; 109:13; Hosea 32:14; Zephaniah 3:19; Revelation 3:1.
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Appendix Two
The argument is made that the word "name" signifies a single name, that is, an appellation that applies to all three. Where would this kind reasoning lead us?
Anja>(I say:To me it is clear it would lead them to Jehovah our father who infact is Yeshua )
What would this "name" be? There is no record in the New Testament writing of anyone being baptized in the name of Yahweh (Jehovah),
Anja >(I say :no of course not because Yeshua=Yahweh(IAM)is Saviour,
this is his name, the name for the ONLY SON the Highest Name on earth and in heaven.)
or in the name of the Father, or the name of the Spirit. One site says the single "name" referred to is "God".
anja>(I say : because he is God Almighty THE SON YHWH/YESHUA)
Again, we find no reference to anyone being baptized in the name of "God" in the New Testament. As far as we know, there is no reference in the ante-Nicene writings of the so-called "church fathers" that support this idea either. In the New Testament writings the only "name" referred to in which one is baptized is the name "Jesus." (Acts 2:28; see also: Acts 8:16, 10:48, 19:5) Making an application of this to the single usage of the word "name" in Matthew 28:19 would cause us to believe that the name, "Jesus", being applied to the Father and the holy spirit, as well as to the Son of God.(how about that ?)
Some trinitarians seem to contradict themselves with this idea, for in reference to Matthew 28:19 they will refer to the "names" [plural] of the Father and of the Son and the holy spirit, but then at the same time insist that the singular usage of "name" means that this is speaking of three persons in one God.
In actuality, the word "name" is not referring to any appellation, but rather to the authority
anja>(I say : so they baptised in the authority of Jesus,in authority of the father ,and the authority of the holy spirit ?)
DID HE MEAN THEY COULD BAPTISE THEM IN THE AUTORITY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT ?
FOR PETER SAYS IT IS A GIFT >ACT 2;38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and be immersed, every one of you, in the name of Yeshua the Messiah for the forgiveness of sins,..... and will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit(they baptised first in the name,this would open the door for them to receive the gift of the holy spirit ,to become baptised with the holy spirit as a free gift from God )
TO ME THIS IS DIFFERANT AS saying ,THEY HAVE THE AUTORITY TO BAPTISE THEM IN NAME OF THE HOLY SPIRIT ?
(ACT8;12, ACT 2;38)
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Anja says;WHAT THIS PERSON NOT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND IS ; that there is just ONE and only one and the same authority in fold here ,
IS THIS PROOF THAT WE ONLY CAN BE BAPTISED IN HIS HOLY SPIRIT..... KNOWING HE YESHUA IS OUR CREATOR (FATHER ) YAHWEH GOD of Israél and he is the only begotten Son of his greater Eternal Father .
Math28:18 Yeshua came to them and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has BEEN GIVEN TO ME in heaven and on earth.
Go,* and make disciples of all nations, immersing them in the name of the Father and of the Son(YAHWEH(I am)YOUR SAVIOR=Yeshua ), and of the Holy Spirit.
to me it says only the father and the son have a name
the spirit does not have a name .
To me this verses is telling me ,
Not in water but..... by holy spirit they would BECOME baptised .
IF WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND Yeshua=YHWH our father ,HOW CAN we receive the gift to BE BAPTISED by THE HOLY SPIRIT as a gift from God ?
YOURS ANJA
FOR PETER SAYS IT IS A GIFT >ACT 2;38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and be immersed, every one of you, in the name of Yeshua the Messiah for the forgiveness of sins,..... and will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit(they baptised first in the name,this would open the door for them to receive the gift of the holy spirit ,to become baptised with the holy spirit as a free gift from God )
ANJA say :TO ME THIS IS DIFFERANT AS ,THEY HAVE THE AUTORITY TO BAPTISE THEM IN (Gods) NAME and OF (BY) THE HOLY SPIRIT,DONT YOU ?
I think if you look at the verse and understand it to mean this (Gods name BY his holy spirit) you will see that the spirit life is given by understanding Gods name and confessing Jesus which brings salvation and is confirmed by the very holy spirit of God becoming one with each faithful converted believer. To me the holy spirit has no name but is part of God making the name of God the source of the holy spirit. Simple but reasonable!
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Ro 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Ro 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Additionally, we have the verse preceding the statement that all authority that Yeshua has is given to him, thus indicating that the Son receives his authority from another, a superior being to himself, that is, HIS ETERNAL Father.
This agrees with John 17:1,3, where YESHUA (Yah our saviour)refers to "HIS" Father as the "only" true Supreme Being, by saying that he was sent forth by that only true Supreme Being.
This is further corroborated by John 20:17, where Yeshua refers to the Father as the Supreme Being over himself.
Nor could this have been a temporary condition, for we find similar statements by YESHUA in Revelation 3:12, after his exaltation by the Father. This is also shown in Ephesians 1:17-22, in that the Supreme Being of our Lord Yeshua /Yahweh"set him" at his own right hand in the heavenly places. Thus Yeshua has been given authority above all the governments and dominions. -- Daniel 7:13,14; Matthew 11:27; John 3:35
There is no reason to read The Catholic "trinity" into the phrase "name of the Father, and of the Son,
Because I understand The SON is YHWH my father ,and in his name YAHSHUA, (YAH is my savior )is in who I am baptised , and of the Holy Spirit". There is absolutely nothing in this phrase that hints of three persons in one God.
I see only THE SON who gave me live, there for he is my father Yah,shua Messiah Yah my saviour .