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This is actually to David Brickners credit that someone has to lie and create a fictitious sound bite to get him in trouble.

Underlying this problem is the holocaust it self.  Alot of people don't believe in God at all because of it Jew and Gentile.

But I see it this way. Instead of Hitler in hell twistin his handle bar mustach with pitch fork in his hand saying nayat nayat nayay it all Jews will be raised from the dead (Romans 11:15) when they nationallay accept Yeshua the live ones, thus leading to All Israel being save (romans 11:26) and the Jews are a majority even if not in number.  But I think they will be as 4 billion nonjews get killed (Zech 13:8) in the day of the Lord and Jews multiply in an edenic earth 1,000 years they may well be a litteral numberical majority.

Hashem is into reversals and this would be the ultimate reversal of fortunes.
searchinmyroots Wrote:

A quote from David Brickner on CNN website.

"David Brickner, the founder of Jews for Jesus, was a speaker. He told congregants that terrorist attacks on Israel were God's "judgment" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity. Brickner said, "Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. When a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment -- you can't miss it."


In my opinion, comments like this only bring out more anti-semitism, whether you believe it to be true or not.


Maybe anti-christain sentiments too, No? SMR ?
New to this forum, and just want to mention how refreshingly civil you all are with one another. Cool!
You can disagree without questioning motives, or trying to trip one another up...
Questions to all whom are in Judaism: Let us assume we are in the time of Noah after Noah's flood. Let us say we came off the Noah's boat and we were suppose to populate the earth. All of us would be in the covenant of Noah's right? If it came to the point that we were at the end of Noah's covenant and Abraham's covenant came into affect would we change? Would we be willing to the transition from Noah's covenant to Abraham's? Really think about it before you read on. Give it about 10 seconds and think before you read on. Would you change the covenant from the previous to the next one? If your answer is yes then Good and if your answer is no then I guess you would be out of the God's "Protection" in a sense. Now the transition from Abraham's to Moses' covenant. If you had a choice would you change unto Moses' covenant? Did those under the covenant of Noah opposed coming in the covenant of Abraham? If your answers are "Yes" to change from one covenant to the next then why would you guys, who are in Judaism, oppose the new covenant of Jesus? Really think about it. Moses' covenant wasn't the first. In the Isaiah 42 and Jeremiah 31 was prophesied a new covenant, different from the fore fathers (Moses' Covenant), would come to be. God stated it before it happened. Why would you oppose the prophesied messiah that was promised to you? It wasn't by chance that Jesus was called "The Messiah". It was prophesied before he came into Flesh. Just a fruit for thought.
Jadin Xquire Wrote:

If you had a choice would you change unto Moses' covenant? Did those under the covenant of Noah opposed coming in the covenant of Abraham?


I think what you missed, though, is that there were people who indeed were under the convenants of Noah and Abraham, and opposed coming out of each one. Those who resisted HaBrit-Avraham were those like Hagar and Yisma'el, who mocked Yitzchak (although being a child of divorce myself, as some have argued that Yisma'el was, I understand why but don't excuse that he took his anger out on Yitzchak). Those who resisted HaBrit-Noach were those like Ham and, as a result, Kena'an, whom Noach cursed.

By the way, I am trying to practice my Hebrew and reach out to fellow Jewish people, including so-called "mamzerim" and "mamzerot".
YehudiahOfYeshua Wrote:

By the way, I am trying to practice my Hebrew and reach out to fellow Jewish people, including so-called "mamzerim" and "mamzerot".


I don't understand what you mean by "including so-called "mamzerim" etc.".
Rabbi Yisroel ben Avrohom Wrote:

YehudiahOfYeshua Wrote:

By the way, I am trying to practice my Hebrew and reach out to fellow Jewish people, including so-called "mamzerim" and "mamzerot".


I don't understand what you mean by "including so-called "mamzerim" etc.".


The patrilineal Jews who you reject as "mamzerim" and "mamzerot".
YehudiahOfYeshua Wrote:

Rabbi Yisroel ben Avrohom Wrote:

YehudiahOfYeshua Wrote:

By the way, I am trying to practice my Hebrew and reach out to fellow Jewish people, including so-called "mamzerim" and "mamzerot".


I don't understand what you mean by "including so-called "mamzerim" etc.".


The patrilineal Jews who you reject as "mamzerim" and "mamzerot".


Again, I don't understand. We don't reject mamzerim; indeed, the Talmud gives precedence to a mamzer who is a Talmid Chacham [Torah Scholar] over a High Priest who is an am ha'aretz [ignoramus].
YehudiahOfYeshua Wrote:

Rabbi Yisroel ben Avrohom Wrote:

YehudiahOfYeshua Wrote:

By the way, I am trying to practice my Hebrew and reach out to fellow Jewish people, including so-called "mamzerim" and "mamzerot".


I don't understand what you mean by "including so-called "mamzerim" etc.".


The patrilineal Jews who you reject as "mamzerim" and "mamzerot".


Someone who has a Jewish father but not a Jewish mother can't
be a mamzer as they aren't a Jew to start with.

Sheitl Queen Wrote:


Someone who has a Jewish father but not a Jewish mother can't
be a mamzer as they aren't a Jew to start with.




I just became aware of this. I'm asking not to mock, but to know what is exactly what. Technically isn't a Jew from the tribe of Judah? Sure as a nick-name everyone from the tribe of Israel and converts to Judaism,(Maybe; Correct me if I am wrong.) is nicknamed "Jew" but could someone from the tribe of Dan, Joseph, Issachar, etc be called a "Jew"? Isn't being "Hebrew" and "Jew" not exactly the same? Are all of you from the tribe of Judah? If not then why call yourself a "Jew" when technically you are not?
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