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I believe the Sader meal is the 'Passover' meal, of  Ex 12, Evening meal of the Feast of Unleavend Bread.  If this is correct, then, yes: only with unleavened bread.  Regular bread? No.  I do not know, about the wine, but think the usage of wine, representing the 'blood' of Messiah, came later, perhaps after entering the holy land.

Not bad for a Christian.  Now, you can run, screaming, from the room, but I do feel that my words, above, are correct.

Shalom in Messiah.  Arley

I know many churches teach that "wine" in the bible is grape juice, not fermented. Personally, I'm not dogmatic about wine/grape juice issue. (With that said, if alcoholic wine might stumble someone, I would not hesitate to use grape juice.)

I would agree that the bread is unleavened though. Like Arley said...even if the Last Supper was not a formal Seder (being the day before Passover) it was still during the time that all leaven was removed from households.

I hear from speakers all the time that the wine used at Passover was not fermented.  The absence of leaven, fermenting, is what should guide.  Regular, or raised, bread, has that tasty leaven, and is incorrect for Passover or for communion which looks back at that last Passover of Christ.

The Baptists I was raised with used cut up cubes of regular bread at communion service.  Later, crackers were used.  Finally, the churches I have been in have used matzo.  All have used grape juice, ranging from the tangy-good Welchs to more watery brands of juice.

I would think avoid leaven for communion, and most importantly remember Christ's body broken for us, and His shed blood.  At our church, the organist would play old hymns that sang of His suffering, sacrifice and shed blood, and love for the Lord who died for us.  Some pastors make communion a brief remembrance following the morning sermon, and I think those are the most effective.  It makes the congregation focus once more on Christ intently, rather than on immediately going home, when the pastor closes his Bible after his sermon.

I think you are right about unleavened bread. I keep seeing pictures of loaves, and I find myself troubled by them. Sort of ruins the symbolism, doesn't it? But I'm not sure how important it is. Some people really don't like matzah (and I'm not speaking metaphorically about non-Christians). But my feeling is that matzah should be used.

But the wine throws me for a loop. I'm not a big wine drinker. And people tell me that wine in the Bible is not wine like today. I'm not sure how one can prove that assertion. To my small mind, grapes are grapes, and grapes make . . . wine. Some people are very legalistic about alcohol. I'm not, though I usually don't drink. But I can't stand grape juice. Would it be okay to use real wine, or should one only use grape juice? I'm curious about your statement about wine coming later. What did they use before? I find it hard to believe that grape juice could make any heart glad.

Yeah I heard a few from my fold say some things similar but they are wrong and this would not be a Jewish wedding!

Joh 2:10 KJVR  And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.


Now why would the standard be to bring out the good wine first?

Maybe they are drinking good fermented wine but when they had a bit to drink and their sensors are smeared they are given a cheaper version.

Religion wants to isolate the lights of the world...

I think that the intent of the communion gathering counts (Romans 14), and that the Pesach bread was to be the only bread eaten only during the time of Pesach and the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

I guess because most people on this forum are protestant, a lot is forgotten.

Judaism and Catholicism have more sources why the matza started to look like it looks today. Connected to the Messiah. So regular bread is not the connection to Passover. But regular bread could be used weekly.

Also in the first centuries where a lot of debates if the symbolism of the last supper should be used once a year or every week, some came up with once a month or so... But than, what to do with regular weekly restdays...?
It's not so clear what Jesus ment there, so it became a Christian Prieslycall Law and debate.

Wine and Beer where in the old days often very strong Drinks. That's why it is written in Talmud how much wine might be diluted with water etc. etc.

Even for Pesach nowadays wine is used. Grapejuice might be o.k. in cercumstances.

Don't get hung up about grape juice or wine. If you are with people who don't use alcohol, use grape juice. Remember the Nazarite sect that Samson was part of? He couldn't even eat a grape according to those rules. I have served both at the same table for different people with different thoughts and beliefs about stuff like that.

Communion also draws from the Todah sacrifice that Melchizedeck offered.  This was of bread and wine.  Todah in Hebrew has the same meaning as Eucharist in Greek.  They both mean thanksgiving.  The early church called the communion celebration the Eucharist.  Early writings suggest it was celebrated everytime believers gathered to worship in assembly.  There is an overwhelmingly powerful relationship between the Passover Seder liturgy and the celebration of the Eucharist.  I believe the Eucharist fulfills the Passover celebration.