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(welcome to section lll of God vs Science)


Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.

"What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?"

"Yes," the professor replies without hesitation. "What is night if there isn't darkness?"

"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's JUST called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word.  Because in reality, darkness isn't DARKNESS. If it were, you would be able to make darkness even darker, wouldn't you?"

The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. "So what point are you making, young man?"

"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed."

The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. "Flawed? Can you explain how?"


"You are working on the premise of DUALITY," the student explains. "You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something FINITE, something we
can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought.  It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it."


Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"

"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do."

"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"

The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

"Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?"

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.

(stay tuned for section llll, which ends the msg)
Yes, I heartily agree that dualities are misleading. Apple being the opposite of orange does not automatically mean you can convert apple into orange with the right process, as much as you might use them interchangeably (at a certain level of meaning).

I had not ever considered that God causing suffering might simply be an argument for quantifying God in disguise. I suppose there is truth to that, that essentially you are saying "suffering is maliciously predefined" (as though it can't be avoided).

God never determined how much or how little we would suffer, only that we would. But if one man suffers a moment and another eternity, if we choose a moment's suffering like the first man.... do we really suffer? And if we choose eternal suffering, is the fault anyone else's but our own?

I am glad I can choose to suffer in the moment, with Christ!
I am only posting here, so as to keep all '4' sections of this message together.  Sorry, I do not know any other way to accomplish keeping the whole thread together, due to the 450 max word clause.

In Messiah, Shalom to one and all.  Arley
The first section, now has the whole storyline.  So, if you have a comment, please make it there, and let this section disappear into cyber-space.

In Messiah.  Arley
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