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What if I hadn't said LI and NYC would be hit by a hurricain?

Then maybe people wouldn't have prayed, then maybe it would have hit.

I would rather have a failed prophecy than find out if it might have been true by failing to prophecy.

Failing to prophecy is alot worse than a failed prophecy.

Successfull prophecy is characterized by failed prophecys because the people pray and repent.

You misunderstand the difference between fantasy and a Word from God Almighty. Furthermore, asking people to pray and then seeing a problem diverted or solved is not "prophecy". Chad, you seem to want to achieve something for your own glory here instead of for God.

Chad, read Deuteronomy 18:15-22.

There's nothing wrong with seeking to prophesy, we are told to seek. The problem comes in that the churches can't properly teach what they themselves have not walked in.  The fact is that you seek HIM, to prophesy, because HE is the prophet. G-d has an order (His) and He won't do anything out of that order.

The speaking gifts are used in order, first, word of knowledge; where He gives a personal word identifying the situation to the hearer. This is something usually only known to the hearer and G-d. He does this, on purpose, because this raises up the person's faith to receive from Him, because the person knows only G-d could know that about them. Every man is given a measure of faith to receive Him, and this activates that faith to receive from and of Him.

Second; word of wisdom. This is where a spiritual scriptural solution is given to be applied to the situation by the hearer.

Third; to prophesy. Prophecy is not in this dispensation primarily concerned with world events. The root of prophecy is to (by the direction of the HS) call those things that are not as though they were. Physical healing can actually come through prophecy in this way, if what He has you to speak has to do with manifesting healing.

Seek HIM, seek to prophesy. Blessings to you........

Jonah's prophecy failed but they repented.

I think NYC would have been wrecked in an earth quake if they had signed that wall street bail out.

If Bush had spoke at the RNC then New Orleans would have gotten wrecked a second time.

If Bush hadn't opened the Pentagon memorial then Ike wouldn't have retired it's name on Galveston and Huston.

I am not saying you can add to the Bible, Maybe you are saying something that isn't till the milllenium.  In Zecharaih 13 in the Millenium you can't do anything prophetic at all.

BUt now you can still have a dream and tell it and have others interpret it and I think more signs will be in these last days as the National Israel comes to Messiah.

TO GOy of Yeshua-
I don't dissagree, if we were all sitting around face to face with a Bible it would be alot easier.

If a false prophet says worship the elephant God and there will be beer in the Ganges river than by OT law you have to kill him.

But if he says in the name of the Lord if you do worship the elephant God there will be blood in the Ganges river and there isn't I think the ancient Hebrews might have let him slide, especially if they most of them stoped worshiping Idols.

So, you saw the Speaker tell everyone that we need to pray and ask for God's guidance? A national call to repentance? A call to worship the True and Living God?




This has more to do with your wrong-headed, paranoid ideas (ie: 9/11 inside job/conspiracy) and political views of our President, and his cabinet, than with any word from God.




GREAT BIG DUH! Jesus says, "Birth pangs"....He told us, already. (Matt. 24, Mark 13, Luke 21) For you to repeat information that our Lord already said is NOT PROPHECY.

CHAD............STOP MOCKING THE HOLY SPIRIT!!

HAVE SOME DISCERNMENT!!

OK, so Ripleys is saying that I, Chad don't have a spiritual gift from the Holy Spirit, and furthermore lack any disernemnt at all.

Well, if that was the case, telling me to get discernment would not be the solution.  The solution would be for me to get saved.

OK, so I just took your negative thing litterally.  This is one way to deal with caustic negativism.

Second, Ripleys is saying I am mocking the Holy Spirit. Hmmm.  If I met you at the local star bucks I would know to avoid you as a negative person.  But since it doesn't hurt so much because you aren't actually yelling in my face, I will answer this for the benefit of others who will read it.

I didn't intend to mock the Holy Spirit.  I noticed from Goy of Yeshua's text of Deut 18 that in my translation a prophet can do 3 things, have a prophetic dream, which I still think some of mine are, give a prophetic message, or give a prophetic teaching.

If my dreams are prophetic or not is something the local body of Christ is to decide.  I don't think we can add to the Bible, but I think you are going extream against the activity of the gifts of the Holy Spirit here and now.

Also, To Goy of Yeshua I would say that maybe the Deuteronomy 18:15ff text is for someone who is saying they are the same as Moses and not just a prophet who says something that doesn't happen.  Hulda said Josiah would die in peace, he didn't but there is no record of Hulda being killed.

God bless, remember love in all things.  

Is "A Failed Prophecy is alot better than failing to Prophecy"?


A sobering instruction about speaking like a prophet.

"But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him." (De 18:20-22)

People are generally inclined to look for immediate results and there are false prophets who attempt to show this. Predicting numerous things, rationalising away why their predictions turned out the way they did. To hold onto some form of legitimacy, denying-blinded to their own status as a false prophet.

But the thing that strikes me about Jonah's message, even the enemies of Israel are granted mercy if they repent of the offending behavior.

To Chow Woman-

Make sure you strap down your hot water heater.

Why does this have to be personal and all about me.

I am trying to focus on the Lord.

The main point is America needs to repent.

And similar to an earth quake the question isn't if but when.

Better sooner than later.

A prime example of this will we turn as a nation to God or will we act like we are rich dady war bucks and buy our way of of it without asking God for help.

If I am not mistaken a southern drought was fixed by the Governor of Georgia praying for rain not that long ago.

You make funny jokes then all of a sudden turn mean, this isn't good.

The baby monkey wants a hug, but the mommy monkey shoots out an iron fist from under brown carpet.