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The second commandment, which forbids belief in other gods, seems straightforward - and therein lies the difficulty.  To whom is the commandment addressed.  We who believe in the Bible would never think to recognize other gods even without the commandment, and nonbelievers by definition aren't listening anyway.

So what was G-d's purpose in issuing the command?  Did Moses have extra ink in his quill?

I suspect G-d was warning of future attempts to meld monotheism and polytheism, such as by viewing Him as a compound unity.
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We who believe in the Bible would never think to recognize other gods even without the commandment



Now that's just hilarious....because while Moses was on Sinai, the Hebrews were making a golden calf, Aaron at the melting pot.

Then, later they turn to idols many times.
In Ezekiel 14:1-8 we can see that stone and wood idols are not the only idols that G-d warns us about. Therefore we are to be on alert always for anything we would put before the Lord our G-d because those things are the "idols of the heart" that Ezekiel wrote about there.

14:1 Then some men from Israel’s elders came to me and sat down in front of me. 14:2 The word of the Lord came to me: 14:3 “Son of man, these men have erected their idols in their hearts and placed the obstacle leading to their iniquity right before their faces. Should I really allow them to seek me? 14:4 Therefore speak to them and say to them, ‘This is what the sovereign Lord says: When any one from the house of Israel erects his idols in his heart and sets the obstacle leading to his iniquity before his face, and then consults a prophet, I the Lord am determined to answer him personally according to the enormity of his idolatry. 14:5 I will do this in order to capture the hearts of the house of Israel, who have alienated themselves from me on account of all their idols.’

14:6 “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘This is what the sovereign Lord says: Return! Turn from your idols, and turn your faces away from your abominations. 14:7 For when anyone from the house of Israel, or the foreigner who lives in Israel, separates himself from me and erects his idols in his heart and sets the obstacle leading to his iniquity before his face, and then consults a prophet to seek something from me, I the Lord am determined to answer him personally. 14:8 I will set my face against that person and will make him an object lesson and a byword and will cut him off from among my people. Then you will know that I am the Lord.

Jew4Judaism Wrote:

The second commandment, which forbids belief in other gods, seems straightforward - and therein lies the difficulty.  To whom is the commandment addressed.  We who believe in the Bible would never think to recognize other gods even without the commandment, and nonbelievers by definition aren't listening anyway.

So what was G-d's purpose in issuing the command?  Did Moses have extra ink in his quill?

I suspect G-d was warning of future attempts to meld monotheism and polytheism, such as by viewing Him as a compound unity.


Jew4"Judaism", please by intellectually and overall honest. You know that the God of Israel is called Elohim and YHVH-Eloheinu, YHVH echad (Genesis 1:1, Deuteronomy 6:4). Also, the only Prophet like YHVH had to be YHVH (Deuteronomy 18:15-22).
Yeshuah is simply God himself, The Mighty Hashem with us...
Therefore there is Zero Idolity when worshipping Yeshua.
For HE is the very Hashem in Flesh....

For it is written:
Isaiah 9:6-7
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever.

Glory! Cheesygrin
Ripley's Wrote:

Now that's just hilarious....because while Moses was on Sinai, the Hebrews were making a golden calf, Aaron at the melting pot.


The Hebrew text is very clear.....

There was no idolatry here.

They did not worship another god, nor did they worship the golden calf.

Danny.
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The Hebrew text is very clear.....



Ex. 32 1 When the people saw that Moshe was taking a long time to come down from the mountain, they gathered around Aharon and said to him, "Get busy; and make us gods to go ahead of us;

4 He received what they gave him, melted it down, and made it into the shape of a calf. They said, "Isra'el! Here is your god, who brought you up from the land of Egypt!"

7 ADONAI said to Moshe, "Go down! Hurry! Your people, whom you brought up from the land of Egypt, have become corrupt! 8 So quickly they have turned aside from the way I ordered them to follow! They have cast a metal statue of a calf, worshipped it, sacrificed to it and said, 'Isra'el! Here is your god, who brought you up from the land of Egypt!' 9 ADONAI continued speaking to Moshe: "I have been watching these people; and you can see how stiffnecked they are. 10 Now leave me alone, so that my anger can blaze against them, and I can put an end to them! I will make a great nation out of you instead."

Is your text different than this? Ex. 32 CJB



Just to make things clear:

-Idol worship happened in Judaism and was more often forbidden.
-Trinity is Idol worship, plus any form that Jesus is an entity himself.
-So those forms of Christianity are forbidden.
-Saying that somebody is the Messiach doesn't have to be Idol Worship.
-Rulings of Bnei Noach don't have to exclude Idol Worshippers. According to a lot of Rabbi's Bnei Noach, can be Christians even though they do idol worship, for non-Jews might need something outside of the concept of HaShem to hold on to.

Off course hard-core Christians have other definitions of Idol worship, so I think to put it in 1 topic, might cause that a lot of people start to talk not with eachother but on totally different levels. And for indeed Christians hardly know the Hebrew explanations, they might not understand that Moshe was punished for hitting the Rock the second time, and that the Golden Calf was NOT the biggest issue.

If HaShem judged gentiles less about Idol Worship than he judged the Jews about it. (for also in Tenach is written that Babylonians could keep their Tree with lights in it with festivals, they are not Good nor Bad by it). Who am I to judge gentiles. But it's not Judaism, nor Messianic Judaism.
Steadfast Wrote:

Yeshuah is simply God himself, The Mighty Hashem with us...
Therefore there is Zero Idolity when worshipping Yeshua.
For HE is the very Hashem in Flesh....

For it is written:
Isaiah 9:6-7
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever.

Glory! Cheesygrin


Note to Steadfast;

A child has been born.

What government was upon jc's shoulder?
Where in the gt was he called any of those names?
Since when is he the "father"? I thought he was as you believe "the son".

How is he the prince of peace when he specifically stated himself that he came NOT to bring peace, but the sword?
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searchinmyroots Wrote:

Steadfast Wrote:

Yeshuah is simply God himself, The Mighty Hashem with us...
Therefore there is Zero Idolity when worshipping Yeshua.
For HE is the very Hashem in Flesh....

For it is written:
Isaiah 9:6-7
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever.

Glory! Cheesygrin


Note to Steadfast;

A child has been born.

What government was upon jc's shoulder?
Where in the gt was he called any of those names?
Since when is he the "father"? I thought he was as you believe "the son".

How is he the prince of peace when he specifically stated himself that he came NOT to bring peace, but the sword?
Question


Just you wait,
For your eyes will see THE MESSIAH, in the very near future, and when you do...
He will have scars in his hands, and feet, and side...

and all of Israel will shout to Yeshuah!
"Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!"

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