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It is a given that God does not need the U.S. to make Israel not only survive Jeremiah 15:20-21 but thrive Ezekiel 37:21-28.  Therefore, that Obama is for Israel or for those against Israel is moot.

I believe that God has permitted Obama's election to further treat the U.S. as we have been asking to be treated, like a nation that needs God but believes it does not owe God a thing except spurious acknowledgement at best and public contempt at worst.

Keyes, et al. weighs in with a petition for the CA Superior Court in Sacramento County to issue a peremptory writ barring SOS Bowen from certifying Obama's election until documentary proof is produced concerning Obama's actual citizenship.  This is not the only suit either.

Unruh - WND - 'Constitutional crisis' looming over Obama's birth location - posted 11-14-08

I had to look up peremptory

This issue is at least as serious as a Florida recount.  Are any Dems concerned?  Or is a possible coup d'etat the change they meant?

It seems to me that they only became concerned IF their choice was HIllary.

Phil Berg (a semi-prominent Dem) filed suit to make Obama prove his citizenry in August. (All attempts failed.) Read it all HERE

My question is: is there NO vetting process for candidates? I mean, dang! we can't get a minimum wage job without showing out citizenship. But we CAN run for prez without proving it? CRAZY!

Here's the actual legal doc.

It boggles my tiny mind to try and imagine the implications of Obama knowingly trying to pull this off if it's true. It would be far, far weightier than a Florida recount. It would probably bring vast civil unrest or possibly civil war. As bad as 4 years with him as president will be, I PRAY that there has not been outright thievery involved like this in this election.

On a side note, sale of guns and ammunition is up, and ammo makes a great stocking stuffer for those of you still celebrating Christmas!

Former senator Barack Obama was born in Hawaii; and even if born in Keyna, so what? The founders had cloud vision on that one. No American or anyone else can choose where they're born. I voted for the Senator McCain-Governor Palin ticket, but tried not to stoop to being a conspiracy theorist; unlike many other Republicans did.

Goy~

This is no conspiracy. Obama has been asked to provide his "long form" Cert. of Live Birth...and has not produced it. Why? Instead, he got the DNC to join him in squashing the suit.

And you think our founders were off on that one? You think that a Naturalized Citizen should be able to be our president?

Think of the implications of that, Goy.

No, people can't help where they're born, but no one has a "right" to be president either. If one is naturalized, Sec'y of State is as high as they can go...good enough. Like Kissinger.

what do we expect from a muslim, remember with them the ends justaifies the means. I heard so many people say where did this guy come from? the whole thing is a scam to get a muslim in the white house.

Leave it to the Democratic Socialist Party.

  Ow!  Oh, the legality!

90% of Americans admit belief in God. (The God of the Bible.) That was the terminology used in the poll I reference - God. (Of the Bible)
Not Allah. What kind of belief is it though? Bending over backwards to make peace without Godly principles (holiness-clinging to the Gospel) will never bring the kind of peace Y'shua gives.

The Falling away before the Son of Perditon is revealed will be so subtil,
yet so tragic, it will be like Esau's hunger trivializing his own birthright to fill his empty stomach. Jacob was wise as a serpent, and harmless as a dove. His mother even agreed with his "scheme".

So much for instant gratification.

Baptistic- What you said in your first paragraph is kin to saying, What is the point of praying, God has predetermined everyone's destiny.

Jer.6
[14] They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

Former senator Barack Obama was born in Hawaii; and even if born in Keyna, so what?


Goy, with all dew respest, I think you are off one this one. If any person from around the world could be our President, they could destroy us.

Barach is a muslim that tryed to pretend to be a Christion. Muslim's want to kill all infidels. That mean's Christions and Jews, you and me.

After 9-11 I would hope that it would have taken the mask off the Muslims so the world could see then for what they realy are, MURDERS!!

Dealing with radical Islam, there is no compromise.


NEVER AGAIN!!!!!!!!

Shalom.

It matters because he would not be eligible to be president if he was
not born on US soil.


I don't support it, but it is the law and until it is changed
should be followed and enforced.


Me neither, and I don't give much credence to it. But it is
an issue that has been raised and should be followed up on.




It was a Dem that filed the lawsuit.