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There is a growimg issue among this thread that intails both Jews and Christians. I know a great website to hear more on this issue; go to; The Hal Lindsay Report.[/http//halindsey.org] He wrote the Late Great Planet Earth 45 years ago, and the scenario amazing fits prophetically to these days! He was called a lunatic 40 years ago, and off the wall. Now He is called a; Watchmen on the wall! He has a striking testimony and insight to these days of political unheaval, and the changing stance of the E.U., U.N. , and the Obama admiistration,and prophesied Netanyahu would take office despite Olmert being elected ! and how it affects Israel. A Prophet I do not call men today, but watchmen of prophecies coming to pass I do profess; He is very accurate ,very Pro-Israel, and annointed on teaching of the Torah, and correlation to prophetic times of Israel and how Yehoshua correlates , not disconnects Judaism. There is only a handfull of sound teachers on Daystar;[ Hal Lindsay; Perry Stone], are the most Hebrew oriented, and do not disconnect the Torah but learn G-d's teachings from this Holy word. The Rabbi's have much to teach Christians, and both reasonings must fit snuglly like e glove or there are errors of misconceotions , and translations, or falsehoods. It is amazing the more I probe into Judaism the more I see the truth of what Yeshua was trying to convey of the G-d of Israel! Men have twisted His words into a vail of blasmemy against G-d! but His true words sound true!Yehsua is the old concealed ;revealed ![Micah 5:2-3 ]I have more [shocking ] info later on Obama. Israel ; beware of wolves in Sheep clothing!Obama speaks this new co-existing universalism of religions predicted in Daniel , and marks the latter days coming. I think they tryed that once . It was called ; The Tower of Babel!I fear what I have to say of this new Governing body will eventually silence my words as the hate law act comes into the law of the land to silence Judaic , and Christianity,[ the true believers of the Torah]but I serve the Law of ; the G-d of Israel, and none other! despite the consequences .This time is very near, but I will bring the truth as long as I am able. I am completelty Pro-Israel, and stand for the whole of Israel, as the G-d of David , and Moses spoke it to be . Shema Yisrael. I think I'm turning Jewish?Except in Indianapolis braided hair are called ;dreadlocks.! [ It seems the word might fit of the persecution coming of G-d's annointed?]

PBHO is IMO, akin to Nebuchadnezzar.  He heads up the most powerful nation on earth, and seems to be doing quite well at setting up Israel for a fall, toward accepting Messiah.  The only thing PBHO does not know, is that his behavior is only accelerating the travail of the times, thus the sooner coming of Messiah.  In a weird sort of way I like what PBHO is doing.  Many people will soon be dying, and suffering greatly, but as a part of the overall picture of God's Prophecies.  May He protect His faithful.

5769/2009 should be full of Prophecy.

In Messiah.  Arley

Arley, Pam and I were just discussing this issue yesterday. It must confirm what we all are thinking. We talked on Ahmadinejhad losing the election, and the prophets being wrong, that he was the one to ushur in the Ahmed, or whatever name they use for antichrist, and I said ; Lets hope he doesn't win. Pam said; What , and live through this hell of torture for Israel, and for Jews and Christians! I wish G-d would just win, and get it over with. We are so tired of seeing injustice , and stupidity ,chidren being raped and killed and evil being set free , and wickedness fall upon this world,I Pray G-d comes.It will only hurt a second or two ,if at all, and we will be in paradise. I saw a cartoon of a street person holding a sign saying; The end of the world is near, and a man in a business suit looking at him, and said; Is that a bad thing?Of course we know the world will not end , just the end of this time !Blesings to you !

I must have hit a nerve with the White House, because only  the essential  Part 3 Youtube ofObama's demanding transparency video got pulled.   The entire video speech still exists at C-span, for now.

http://cspan.org/Watch/Media/2009/05/21/...urity.aspx

The quotes on C-Span are found at:
1) @ 37:10-37:23 on the C-Span video link.
2) @37:54-38:07 on the C-Span link
4) “@ 40:44-41:01  on the C-span link


3) “…in our system of checks and balances, someone must always watch over the watchers - especially when it comes to sensitive information.” @38:28 – 38:39 on the C-span link

I have already sourced how that Baraq has likened himself to the Shia Islamic servant who will exalt the coming 12th Imam of Islam, who will seek to kill all Jews and Christians. In the Biblical end-times application, Daniel 4:16-17 seems to just leap out here:

16 Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him.

17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

The passage describes a man who is given the  heart of a wild and savage beast, which knows little other than hunting down its prey, consuming it, and just being downright vicious. In mis-referencing the title of "watchers", it may be that Obama is admitting that he is of the basest of men in his heart; while the L-RD in this passage reminds us that it is HE, G-D Almighty, who allows or sets up such base and evil men (such as Obama) to rule.  The prophecy does not mean that Obama is  THE anti-Christ, nor that he will rule for 7 years...but it is an interesting insight that is revealed in the Greek,  in Revelation's NT application of Therion to reveal the end-time beast of Daniel to His Church.

The Hydra 7-headed Beast of Daniel and Revelation, in the end-times,  has feet like a bear (Revelation 13:2): this is the indoctrination and path directed by Islam.  The Coming Rapture of Christ's Church is certainly at the door, and is come near.

Obama is a complete dummy why not use the League of Nations which gave Israel the Biblical boundries instead of the UN/British boundries who setup this whole mess. TransJordan better known as Jordan formally known as Palestine!

I would rather have one rose and a kind word from a friend while I'm here
than a whole truck load when I'm gone.

Happiness keeps You Sweet,

Trials keep You Strong,

Sorrows keep You Human,

Failures keeps You Humble,

Success keeps You Glowing,

But Only God keeps You Going

For almost two thousand years our predecessor mortals, most did not accept Messiah, and some did accept Him.  Over that time, we have actually lost  ground, and IMO, God's time-table demands this era end, and the last era, before Eternity begin.  Great Tribulation will be the last act of this, the Church era (Time of the Gentiles).

Share your love of Messiah with all you see.  Witness to the trees, and the grass. Someone may over-hear you, and turn to Jesus. Remember that Jesus said something to the effect that words spoken carry on for ever.  OK, He meant His, but ours may also have that power.

Praise God, we are living the final Prophecies of the Church Age.  May we live them well.

In Messiah.  Arley

I understand your comprehension of revelation , as it seems all believers , once separated in theory of this issue are all agreeing. Obama is of the anti christ,as his fruit bears witness, and it seems the U.N./E.U will become the dominate force in the world. Tony Blair is up for head of the E.U., but Obama is being groomed for 2012. I believe ; the enactment of the anti crime act , will silence our words in the next few years, but The Bible speaks of men ; having a form of righteousness , but setting themselves against the G-d of Israel. Watch Israel, and you shall see the Revelation of Biblical events number thier sequence of our place in time . These are the signs , though much hurt will come , that our birth, and travail, will soon end , and the G-d of Israel, and His appointed Ruler from the House of David shall sit upon the Throne of Heavens Jerusalem, descended from Heaven; Yehoshua.May His Peace , and safety be upon you my brother!

On 08/05/09, Nancy Pelosi calls the majority of Americans (as indicated now by the various professional polls) as "Astroturf".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGzAi4vZqYI

Think for a moment about what "astroturf" is...something inhuman, and to be stepped and trampled upon. "We the people", have ceased to be people in the eyes of Nancy Pelosi and the Obama Administration. When Congress or other Federal leaders of this country become "socio-pathic" in their language to their constituents like Pelosi is, it is time for them to be removed (i.e., resign from Office).  

Congress also need to address the issue of acceptable coverage as being that defined in the House Healthcare Bill. The 07/14 Bill states that our lives are to hang on  the subjective whims of the Commissioner, who can decide who and what groups may be treated privately; when she has a $6,000,000 conflict of interest

http://investigativereportingworkshop.or...nnections/

By the language in of the 7/14/09 HR @ Healthcare Bill:   pp.  4-5, lines 3,6-9; p.8, lines 3-5; p.76, lines 6-9,12,14-16,19,21;  p.77, lines 1-2, 7, 9-15, 18, 20-25; p.16, lines 1-4, 6-16;  p. 18, 11-22; and p. 17, lines 8-19 --

1)Medicare Part B is removed,
2)Deparle or whomever is Commissioner is given dicatatorial powers as to what is a subjective "acceptable coverage healthcare plan" to her,
3) DeParle or whomever is Commisisioner can subjectively alter  "payment" of treatments or services, blaming the budget allowances by the Secretary of Treasury
4) After Y1 (day 1 of implementation) begins,it will be illegal to create a new private healthcare plan company.
5) All existing healthcare plan companies that make the grace period will be phased out of existence at the end of 5 years, except for those subjectively retained by the Commissioner to exist.  Hence, a likely 97% of America will be "socialized" and rationed.
6) By genociding our seniors, we will fulfill the wording of "caring" (replace the de facto definition of murder)as outlined in the 3 year University of London Report from  The Centre for International Courts and Tribunals (CICT), whose language in the international treaty will be ratified by Senate and signed by Obama this fall, before or after the passing the "Healthcare Reform Bill".

I find myself praying for G-d's will to be done for Obama. Give me a shot ! I'll see you in heaven!, but the U.S. must fall to complete the prophets predictions . Israel shall stand alone against the world, and then G-d, and the Ruler of Israel apointed of G-d shall come ! Come Lord Jesus come!Who shall we fear, if we are His?This life is but a flower that fades quickly,like a wave of the sea, a breath of wind that blows across our face. The end of our life [this body] is the beginning of our life[ like a fetus to be born]. Except the life we are born into is eternal and perfect Love! Shalom. I have seen it! Do not fear!It is more glorious  than we can ever imagine! We cannot change the will of G-d. Abraham tried, but G-d knew the result!I believe there are some things we just cannot change, but it never hurts to try!I still can't get G-d to tie my shoes though, as a matter of fact ;I have two blisters on my feet, and shoes at the moment hurt. I guess I tried too hard?

There was a Rabbi on You Tube that identified Obama as the anti christ, from translating scripture. It was blocked. It was very unusual of the correlation of words, and then being blocked, but he doesn't quite fit into the title of the Ruler of the kingdom of the beast. Maybe a toe?[I hope he doesn't read this?], but then again ; whom shall I fear? Not him;thats for sure!