Even former House of Representatives Speaker
Tom Delay says Obama is required by the Law to produce his Long Form Birth Certificate to prove he is eligible to be President (interview with MSNBC Chris Matthews).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOfqRTcrJ...re=related
But
since the "natural born" status follows the citizen father, and Obama Sr. was a Kenyan National and never a US citizen, it is legally impossible for Obama to be a "natural born" US Citizen. To be natural born in US Constitutional Law (and Precedents), you must be born of
two US Citizen parents, or a US Citizen Father. Barack qualifies for neither.
The highest he can aspire to is a 14th Amendment second-class born citizen that can be governor or a senator...never a US President.
Hence when people compare Obama to "anti-Christ" whom Paul labels as the
"man of lawlessness"...they are not far off the mark. Barack precedes the final anti-Christ, who will be a son of Greece or Italy by one parent and a son of the tribe of Dan, pretending to be of the tribe of Judah from the other.
So where's Barack's Long Form Birth Certificate, and where does it say he was born? He's a
deceiver...a little anti-christ...so he doesn't want you or me to ever truly know. What was the opposite of being "lawful" and "transparent" again? Oh, yeah.
Did you know that there is now clear evidence that Barack Obama is an Unconstitutional (hence, illegal) and unqualified for office President? On August 5, 2009, the 10th Circuit upheld in Craig v. US that in order to be a “natural born citizen” in the USA, one must be born to a US citizen father; and that there is no inherent right for one who barely qualifies as a 14th Amendment citizen to be labeled as a “natural born”, just as a foreigner who immigrates and naturalizes has no such right to the claim either.
In 1884, Democrat Arthur P. Hinman published the January 10, 1881 letter in which Democratic Senator Bayard of Delaware affirmed Chester A. Arthur’s right to be President of the United States because Chester’s father naturalized as a US Citizen prior to Chester’s 21st birthday. In contrast, Barack Sr. never became a US Citizen. Hence, Barack Jr. is unconstitutionally qualified and illegal in the office he now holds. In a letter dated July 9, 2009, California Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein stated to me that the 14th Amendment qualifies Barack Obama to the Office.
But that same 14th Amendment argument was neutralized as far back as the Sep/Oct 1884 issue of the American Law Review, in which Democratic lawyer George D. Collins stated that in order to be “natural born” of a particular citizenship, such as the United States, “that his father be at the time of the birth of such a person a citizen thereof”. Barack’s father lived and died as a Kenyan national with dual British citizenship. Hence, Barack Obama Jr. illegally occupies the office of President of the United States and needs to be legally and peacefully removed from office immediately. Since Nancy Pelosi signed off on Barack on August 28, 2008, Pelosi needs to resign immediately also.
Even former House of Representatives Speaker
Tom Delay says Obama is required by the Law to produce his Long Form Birth Certificate to prove he is eligible to be President (interview with MSNBC Chris Matthews).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOfqRTcrJ...re=related
But
since the "natural born" status follows the citizen father, and Obama Sr. was a Kenyan National and never a US citizen, it is legally impossible for Obama to be a "natural born" US Citizen. To be natural born in US Constitutional Law (and Precedents), Barack qualifies for neither.
you must be born of two US Citizen parents, or a US Citizen Father.
The highest he can aspire to is a 14th Amendment second-class born citizen that can be governor or a senator...never a US President.
Hence when people compare Obama to "anti-Christ" whom Paul labels as the
"man of lawlessness"...they are not far off the mark. Barack precedes the final anti-Christ, who will be a son of Greece or Italy by one parent and a son of the tribe of Dan, pretending to be of the tribe of Judah from the other.
So where's Barack's Long Form Birth Certificate, and where does it say he was born? He's a
deceiver...a little anti-christ...so he doesn't want you or me to ever truly know. What was the opposite of being "lawful" and "transparent" again? Oh, yeah.
brianroy, Shalom.
I cannot state as fact, but I believe what you said, which I have 'Bolded in 'green,' is not quite correct. As I understand U.S. Law, all a person has to do is be born in the U.S. even if from illegal parents, and the child is 'legal.' Not much is said about it today, but a few years back, many pregnant women would cross the border, and would present themselves to a hospital, after entering 'Hard' labor. Once the child was documented as having been born in the hospital, the woman used to be allowed to apply for waiver of waiting on the list to immigrate.
I am going way back into memory la-la land here so I may have slightly miss-stated, but mostly I speak how it is.
In Messiah. Arley
...As I understand U.S. Law, all a person has to do is be born in the U.S. even if from illegal parents, and the child is 'legal.'
In looking at the US Immigration Laws, there are three essential recognitions: Anchor, Natural Born, Naturalized.
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Anchor birth in the United States or its territories
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Natural born birth to U.S. citizen parents (through the Citizen father, or citizens of father and mother, called "acquisition" of citizenship)
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Naturalization (obtaining citizenship after an application and exam), or
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Naturalization of a minor though through one's parents (called "derivation" of citizenship).
...Rep. A. Smyth (VA), House of Representatives, December 1820:
When we apply the term “citizens” to the inhabitants of States, it means those who are members of the political community. The civil law determined the condition of the son by that of the father. A man whose father was not a citizen was allowed to be a perpetual inhabitant, but not a citizen, unless citizenship was conferred on him."
The citizenship of a US child will depend upon the citizenship and residency of the father. (Act of Mar. 26, 1790, 1 Stat. 103, 104). I have tracked pre-1787 state charters, and some two dozen supporting cases in the Supreme Court which confirm this interpretation: natural born statusis offered solely through the US Citizen father biologically present (or with the exception, the assumption thereof if thechildis illegitimate). Obama's father is KNOWN as he who lived and died as a foreign subject, a dual Kenyan and Britsh subject, making it IMPOSSIBLE for Barack to be an NBC qualified holder of the Presidency. It is lawlessness to allow him to possess that office. We Christians should pray about that.
Brianroy, Shalom, and thanks. Whewww-eeee!! What is gonna happen once someone with some clout figures out what you have, and brings it before the court? I would almost bettcha that it never gets that high, until it is too late, or the hole in the law is plugged.
In Messiah. Arley
Obama, according to Kenya's own embassy in Brussels, was born as what Vattel's Law of Nations would have called a natural born citizen of Kenya, via his father,
http://www.kenyabrussels.com/docs/nation...abroad.pdf
and as stated through Kenya's Constitution Section 95(1) and the Kenyan Independence Act of 1963 2 (1)(a).
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1963/pdf...054_en.pdf
On 9-28-2005, at a Harvard University Q&A: US Supreme Court Justice Breyer described the Supreme Court’s role as
“100 percent law interpretation” and “much more mechanical than you might think.”http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=508682
Strangely enough, in the majority opinion of 2001’s 533 US 53, NGUYEN ET AL. v. INS.
http://supreme.justia.com/us/533/53/ , one of the criteria of proving one's birth location and birth citizenship is through the 100% mechanical means of hospital records and witnesses.
533 US 53, NGUYEN ET AL. v. INS. (2001) @ 54 :“The mother's relation is verifiable from the birth itself and is documented by the birth certificate or hospital records and the witnesses to the birth.” And
@62:”
In the case of the mother, the relation is verifiable from the birth itself. The mother's status is documented in most instances by the birth certificate or hospital records and the witnesses who attest to her having given birth.”
In the case of Barack Obama, we have no original Birth Certificate or Hospital records to verify his birth hospital, his birth location, his citizenship. We do have a clear short-form forgery conducted by a zealot groupie, a claim by an administrator who may be commiting perjury based on political zeal and complicit in conspiracy to see a "Democrat" in power (story still breaking:
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/ ) ; and the only witness still living to testify regarding Barack said he was born in Mombosa, Kenya.
If we had any doubts about Obama I think the past few days have cemented them. I call on the men of this world to unite and help us against our Hitler, against our persecution, against our holocaust.
Some will say you cannot compare the two but I beg to differ having been born in Southern Calif. and lived most my life in Northern California I can attest to the fact that we are indeed being railroaded and persecuated for our faith in Gd and His son Jesus. So I ask that the men of this world, by the power of the Holy Spirit of the Most High, unite now. Please dont use the " this must happen" excuse. We all know this must happen, the same could have been said of the prophesied German Holocaust as well, Gd forbid, but unlike that tragedy we have foreknowledge, we have gained insight and wisdom from the Lord, we are stronger as believers and worshipers of Gd, we can and must take action. I honestly do not know what that action should be but I do know that we cannot stand and look at the issues we are facing and cowar, not now, not again. This time we take back the Kingdom and it will be ours forever and ever and ever and ever as Gd has promised. I have shared this message below and hope you will pray also. Thank you.
YOU NEED THE SUPPORT AND HELP OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE. IF THE MEN OF THIS COUNTRY DONT STOP THEM WHAT CHANCE DO US WOMAN AND CHILDREN HAVE AGAINST THEIR CORRUPTION AND PERSECUTION? I WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE MEN WILL DO NEXT.
SATAN HAS TURNED THEIR MEN INTO WOMAN WHO WEAR DRESSES, TALK AND WALK LIKE WOMAN, MAKE LOVE LIKE A WOMAN, AND FOR PURPOSES ARE WOMAN....WHAT WILL OUR MEN DO? GL
Hi all,
Perhaps, all we have left to do is prayerfully mourn our national demise, and pray that Messiah comes soon.
In Messiah, His Shalom, and wrath. Arley
Deuteronomy 17:14-15 When thou art come unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, and shalt possess it, and shalt dwell therein, and shalt say, I will set a king over me, like as all the nations that [are] about me;Thou shalt in any wise set [him] king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: [one] from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which [is] not thy brother.
Hosea 8:1-4 [Set] the trumpet to thy mouth. [He shall come] as an eagle against the house of the LORD, because they have transgressed my covenant, and trespassed against my law. Israel shall cry unto me, My God, we know thee. Israel hath cast off [the thing that is] good: the enemy shall pursue him. They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew [it] not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.
***I support the nation of Israel/though, I also believe we are Israel spiritually as well; many of the people of the USA are originally of Israel though we have lost our heritage. Yeshua clearly says there is no Jew/Greek/Gentile and we are become one; we are grafted in as a believer in Yeshua. When we as a stranger believe we are grafted in and we are under the same laws of God as he clearly tells Israel in the law...that the stranger is to be under the same law...one of the same law. We have set up a "king" that is not of our faith; we have transgressed God's law, and we as a nation will have to pay. I saw an interview the other day that made me cry. They went to a mall and asked many people to name the 10 commandments; many could only name a couple...do not murder, steal,etc. Then they asked them to name as many types of beers as they could...you guessed it...they could all name many! So sad....***
The timing is absolutely perfect for a man like, what I see in, Obama, to be the President of this United States. Anti-Christ? I thought he might be, but now, no. Too many Liberals, are starting to see his weakness of logical thinking, and are 'jumping ship.'
Sadly, it seems, the only choices we have are the Three-R's: Resist, Rebel, or Rapture. I'm too OFU for one and two, so I guess I will just have to settle on 'door #3,' Rapture. Much as I hate leaving the scene of an accident, I don't mind leaving the scene of deliberate destruction. Yeee-Haaa! (Sailor for Up anchor, and set sail.)
Actually, Be He, or Be He Not, the Anti-Christ, President Obama, seems dedicated to the financial destruction of this country, or, what-ever. No matter! God IS in control, and God WON'T leave us in the lurch. I'd do another Y.....H....., but wont. Too many on one page, makes the ink run.
In Messiah, His Shalom, and Celebration of Prophecy. Arley
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