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Ripley
I think you are right about the Socialist (partly anti religion) approach of Obama. Allthough I sit and sleep far away...

But what is the difference with Bush, Clinton and the others???
I maen the U.N. including all American presidents are working since the mid 1970's towards equal social justice. Then the plan was made to combine the Dollar, Euro and Yen into 1 world-currency. Then was decided that the posesion of Oil and other world-goods including the IMF system couldn't survive forever. (After WW-II Oil became an ''international source'' vs. the idea of colonism, but Iran, Opec, Venezuela etc. had to pay the IMF the main bulk of their profit).
The system had to change, how that goes in stages, but Obama is only the so-much puppet in the system I thinks. So America always believed in that Marxists system? Or do you just start to wake up?
Anyway I agree that he's not a real Muslim nor Christian... And for Obama to call himself a centralist is an easy way out off course.

Yetzirah~

I think they are all globalists, but one side (conservatives, or quasi-conservatives) is capitalist, the other (liberals) socialist/Marxist. Neither really "good". Blurring the lines of sovereignty of not only other countries, but our own as well.

And although Obama is not a Muslim (IMO) he does not find Islamic Jihadists "evil" either. He "relates" to them as being "disenfranchised", "oppressed by the imperialistic system", etc.

And IMO he is viewed as "weak" by them (and Putin, for that matter). Just another "useful idiot" in their eyes, to be manipulated.

Ayers is not Muslim, but he is anti-American, therefore sides with the PLO, al Qaeda, etc. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend.", ya know?

Al Qaeda says order given for US attack “far bigger than 9/11”

DEBKAfile Updates DEBKA-Net-Weekly Exclusive

November 16, 2008, 4:43 PM (GMT+02:00)

Osama bin Laden plans to test Barack Obama like two former US presidents  DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources report that US president-elect Barack Obama, European and Russian heads of state in Washington for the G20 conference over the weekend were briefed about a probable early al Qaeda attack.

Obama and his team have been advised that a new al Qaeda strike is highly probable in the United States or against a key US target in Europe, North Africa or the Middle East.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly 372 of Nov. 14 disclosed that al Qaeda’s Yemen base, a reliable barometer for Osama bin Laden’s schemes, issued a Directive to All Fighters in Arabia on Nov. 9 presaging a major operation in the United States that will “change the political and economic world” and be “far bigger than 9/11.”
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The notice said “the operation is very near” and “precise instructions were in the hands of “the fighters, who are already on their way to America” armed with bin Laden’s orders. The pretext offered for the attack is the rejection by the US and Europe of al Qaeda’s four-year old truce offer whose original pre-condition was the withdrawal of their armies from Iraq and Afghanistan.

The day after the new president’s election, al Qaeda issued a little-noticed statement declaring Barack Obama a murtad, i.e. an apostate whose betrayal of Islam is judged the most heinous. Believers have the duty to execute a murtad unlike other non-believers whose death sentence is optional.

Thursday night, Nov. 14, Central Intelligence Director Gen. Michael Hayden said: “Al Qaeda, operating from its safe haven in Pakistan’s tribal areas, remains the most clear and present danger to the United States.” He was addressing a Washington think-tank.

“Today, virtually every major terrorist threat that my agency is aware of has threads back to the tribal areas. Whether it is command and control, training, direction, money, capabilities, there is a connection to the FATA (Pakistan’s Federally Administered Tribal Areas.)”

Hayden also mentioned Yemen and Somalia as important al Qaeda theaters of operation.

In private, most heads of the intelligence agencies fighting al Qaeda admit that an attack on the United States or major American interest outside is only a matter of time.

And maybe Joe Biden isn't as dumb as he looks.

Loose Change

Obama's "Hollywood diplomacy" launches dialogue with Tehran
February 28, 2009, 10:05 AM (GMT+02:00) {from Debkafile}


Annete Bening brings a smile from Obama to the ayatollahs
Thirty-eight years ago, a ping pong team sent by US president Richard Nixon to Beijing opened the door to Communist China. February 27, 2009, president Barack Obama launched his bid for dialogue with Iran with an Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts and Sciences delegation from Hollywood. It is led by the actress Annette Bening, AMPAS president Sid Ganis and his predecessor Frank Pierson who flew in just after the Oscar award ceremony. Visiting in the framework of "US-Iranian culture exchanges," they will hold talks in Tehran Saturday and Sunday.

DEBKAfile's Washington sources note that this visit coincides with three relevant events:

1. Friday, Obama announce that the bulk of US forces will be out of Iraq by Aug. 2010 leaving only 50,000 in place. This meets Tehran's objections to the presence of large-scale US forces in Iraq.

2. He calmed Iran's fears on another score when he stated in a PBS interview: "One of the things that I think we have to communicate in Afghanistan is that we have no interest or aspiration to be there over the long term."

3. The US president had his reply from Tehran in the former Iranian president Akbar Hashemi Rasanjani's Friday sermon, when he extended his government's first overt invitation for talks on the nuclear issue: "…we don't make false promises," said the Iranian strongman. "Therefore I declare that Iran's nuclear plan is not to build weapons …and we are ready to prove it in negotiations."

{Yet on Saturday, February 28, 2009, Israeli intelliegence sources confirmed that Iran is less than 4-6 month away from testing their first nuclear bomb.  That's means June to August 2009.}

A Christian is resolved to be truthful, and to make his words matter.  

Obama is untruthful, and his words often have the opposite meaning or a great twist occurs at the point he says "on".  His "war ON (something)" is a "war FOR (that something)", for example.

Obama pushes fear to drive massive deficit spending.  In the mid-October 2008 debate against John McCain, Obama railed about the Bush Administration creating a 500 billion dollar a year deficit.  Less than 40 days into the illegally elected Obama Presidency, that deficit has now been increased by 7 fold to 3,500 billion in new spending on top of the budget...and you guessed it...more bailout is on the way!

The Democratic leadership has conspired against America to become Socialistic, with the idea of a One Party rule (meaning them), and the forcing of the world system into financial collapse and into a new monetary formation. The reason seems to be that we get to spend all that we want now, and then all US debt just dissolves in the chapter 13 of the world's banking systems, and we simply start all over after a few tough months or a year or two.

In the end, the US has socialized (read "universal") democracy, socialized
(read "universal") health care, socialized (read "universal") monitoring of individuals to protect the collective good's anti-Christian rights. That phase is a radio chip in every driver's license or id card, which must be carried upon the individual in transit to any location to or from their private residence.

See the comparable World Net Daily story on your soon required radio chip at:
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=90008


In the age of "Obama drama", don't be surprised if the stimulus bills keep coming to surpass 10.5 Trillion in the next few months, with the call by a certain Senator to make "wheat", not gold or silver, but a food product, as the underlying support of our currency.  And then, to be taken seriously by the Obama administration.  You read it here first.

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=12...s=newswire

Obama Administration Releases Secret Bush Anti-Terror Memos

Devlin Barrett and Matt Apuzzo
The Associated Press
March 3, 2009

The Obama administration threw open the curtain on years of Bush-era secrets Monday, revealing anti-terror memos that claimed exceptional search-and-seizure powers and divulging that the CIA destroyed nearly 100 videotapes of interrogations and other treatment of terror suspects.

Instead of a 30 year secrecy on top secret memos, Obama seeks to sabatoge the Justice Dept., the CIA, and other agencies who are still employing some of these patriots fighting the war on terror, and subject them to being sued, drummed out, or even killed...just like one would rat out the enemy agents of another country.-- Brianroy
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WorldNetDaily Exclusive

Communists: Obama 'best opportunity in decades'
Crowds plot next steps in 'expansion' of U.S. president's victory

Posted: March 01, 2009
7:34 pm Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

President Obama's leadership is "one of the best opportunities that Americans have had in decades," declared a civil rights activist addressing an overflow crowd at a gathering sponsored by the official newspaper of the Community Party USA.

The Peoples Weekly World last weekend held its 35th Annual African American History Month celebrations in Connecticut, drawing large crowds in both Hartford and New Haven, including high school students who participated in an arts competition with the theme "Dear President Obama, My dream is ... ."

Racism openly used as a "cover" for Communism. Those who love Democracy and the Republic for which the USA stands, take notice. -- Brianroy

The ancient  Christian lawyer and philosopher Tertullian  once wrote, that “, every god depended on the decision of the Senate for his godhead.” and that from the Senate, “Divinity is allotted at the judgment of human beings.  Unless gods give satisfaction to men, there will be no deification for them.” (Tertullian, Apology, .13 and .5)

The perceived legally elected, but de facto not a USA born citizen, and hence illegally elected  President Obama (as under 8 USC 1481(a)(2) and 8 USC 1401 (a)(1), and Article II of the US Constitution) has given free reign to the leaders of the Democrats in THE SENATE and the House to ram through bill after bill of  wasteful spending eclipsing deficits incurred under an entire 8 previous years in under 7 weeks, with more "free spending" waste to come,  because of two reasons:
                 1) Obama (it seems to me) CAN  be blackmailed, because he is illegal for the office of the Presidency; and
                 2) He ASPIRES  to economically destroy the USA by spending it into utter ruin, seizing dictatorial powers in the near future under "pretext", in order to remake the Federal Government of the USA  into the mental image he has of Communism, through the vision that his book title “Dreams of My Father” self describes.  And yes, Obama's Father was a non-US citizen and a Communist.

In regard to conspiring against Israel's downfall, and not just the USA's alone...On January 27, President Obama signed Presidential Determination No. 2009-15, which allocates $20.3 million for Palestinian migration and refugee assistance. Then a few days ago, he has Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reward a terrorist state (Gaza) with 900 million dollars to aid "victims" (i.e., in Islamo-speak,  the terrorists who launched rockets on Israel) and rebuild "infrastructure".  So Obama now openly joins Iran and the Muslim conspiracy with US TAX-DOLLARS in the mutual promotion of terrorism and the destruction of Israel?  Holy cow!!!

It is time we demand Obama prove his legal live-birth Hawaiian birth status with a non-fraudulently generated live-birth certificate, or half this nation will begin to rise up and demand that the US Supreme Court immediately reverse all legislation and executive orders and policies he has thus far signed as illegal and unenforceable.  Let the demands for the Recall (or Impeachment) and a Criminal Indictment  of  Barrack Hussein Dunham-Obama-Soetoro, and the same for the leaders of the Democratic Party who covered up his illegal status from the American People, begin here.

More and more I think he is the anti-Christ. I am not learned or knowledgable on if but he might just meet the qualifications. I hope Im not being to wicked to say such a thing and G*d forgive me if Im wrong.