JFJ Forums - That's why I am a Judeochristianmoslim.

If people ask what i believe, i answer them something they cannot see immediately.

I am a Judeochristianmoslim.

Judean, because jews were given the Thora through Mozes, where is being foretold that they could expect the comming of the Immanuel amongst them, God with us, a Devine event that they mistakenly, but dertermined by God, would not acknowlegde, see Jesaja 53, et al., something they do till this day.

Christian, who believes that God's human derivative JezusChrist came into the flesh to compassionately live, suffer and die, as a normal human, to Comfort us, till the end of (pagan) times. So literaly being the Immanuel,
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Moslim because there would spring up a big religion out of the old one, around 666, that would twist and annul the meanings of the entire Bible, the antichrist, sitting in the temple like Paul said, as it does on mount Moriah, with the scripture:
Allah has no servant or son.

So every creed has it's prophetic role to play, nowone really is to blame, we just have to inform our fellowabrahamists of it. This is what is called apocalypse, when the world is informed and revealed.

The jews have always mistakenly been coerced by the christians who thought that they were insulting God by not acknowledging Jezus, something they ought to do according to the holy scriptures.

Shalom jHanosch.

"... out of the old one, around 666, that would twist and annul the meanings of the entire Bible,..."

Do you say the above with tongue in cheek, or something nasty in mind?  You start the Muslim part of your statement logically enough, but then when you get to the word 'twist,' you are doing exactly that, 'twisting.'  I know of no Biblical verbiage that the Anti-Christ annuls the meaning of the 'entire' Bible.  Yes, he tries to change meanings, and laws, but fails.

I suspect you of playing Devils advocate, just to promote a discussion that would give credit to, AC, or the time we are entering in the travail of the end-times.  Every mortal soul could be murdered, and the "meaning of the entire Bible" would still be shouted by the rocks.

This could be an interesting thread.

In Messiah, His Shalom.  Arley

jHenosch Wrote:

If people ask what i believe, i answer them something they cannot see immediately.

I am a Judeochristianmoslim.

Judean, because jews were given the Thora through Mozes, where is being foretold that they could expect the comming of the Immanuel amongst them, God with us, a Devine event that they mistakenly, but dertermined by God, would not acknowlegde, see Jesaja 53, et al., something they do till this day.

Christian, who believes that God's human derivative JezusChrist came into the flesh to compassionately live, suffer and die, as a normal human, to Comfort us, till the end of (pagan) times. So literaly being the Immanuel,
and
Moslim because there would spring up a big religion out of the old one, around 666, that would twist and annul the meanings of the entire Bible, the antichrist, sitting in the temple like Paul said, as it does on mount Moriah, with the scripture:
Allah has no servant or son.

So every creed has it's prophetic role to play, nowone really is to blame, we just have to inform our fellowabrahamists of it. This is what is called apocalypse, when the world is informed and revealed.

why would you include moslim being apart of who you are in your faith if it twist God word?

I"m confuse?

I think you are meaning Islam right? if so then yes they twist scripture very much.

if you compare The lineage through out the bible it has the land belong to jews not arabs.

if you read Islam book they have the lineage going through not israel but the arabs.

I don't understand?

There are many claims that will not end up in the same appocalyse.
Christianity claims to have an oldest tradition for Jezus was there before the beginning of the world.
Muslims tell that they have teached Mozes. And that Jezus will judge everybody.
Jews will not claim both, and have other appocalyse stories.

Besides that Jews and Arabs are from Abraham, but most Muslims and Christians not. So they partly started to tell stories outside of the Abraham-related family strory, and part of the prophecies might be not-Abrahamic.

But it seems this is your post nr.1 so I'll wait for the next ones.

Hi there. I'm not real sure that all of your "titles" mix well together either. I've certainly heard of Judeo-Christianity which is similar to Messianic Judaism but then adding the Muslim part which pretty much takes away from both is a bit puzzling. Not to mention an entirely different book (Quran). Are we all missing something here or missing some sort of point you are wanting to make? Blessings.

Navyblue Wrote:

Shalom jHanosch.

"... out of the old one, around 666, that would twist and annul the meanings of the entire Bible,..."

Do you say the above with tongue in cheek, or something nasty in mind?  You start the Muslim part of your statement logically enough, but then when you get to the word 'twist,' you are doing exactly that, 'twisting.'  I know of no Biblical verbiage that the Anti-Christ annuls the meaning of the 'entire' Bible.  Yes, he tries to change meanings, and laws, but fails.

I suspect you of playing Devils advocate, just to promote a discussion that would give credit to, AC, or the time we are entering in the travail of the end-times.  Every mortal soul could be murdered, and the "meaning of the entire Bible" would still be shouted by the rocks.

This could be an interesting thread.

In Messiah, His Shalom.  Arley

You are right, ofcourse not everything is being annulled or twisted, very much remains the same in disquise, because false prophecy would look like sheep from the outside but infact is a wolf from the inside.

Moslims themselves are the biggest victims of their creed, no matter how much they ignore that fact, so it is high time for a revelation.

The most important reason this is not happening yet is fear of expulsion or even islamic extremism.

Only fear keeps the antichrist together, the spirit who by definition denies Jezus Christ came into the flesh and is Son and Servant of God.

Wow! Very hard to understand, but I think I will call myself a muslim too.

If the only way to witness to a Muslim is to be a Muslim then yes, I will be the worst!

(Incidentally, it is extremely insightful to say "fear keeps the anti-Christ together. Did you know that you can actually manipulate the anti-Christ by feigning fear? But this is for mature Christians, it is possible you will not understand).

Godservant Wrote:

Wow! Very hard to understand, but I think I will call myself a muslim too.

If the only way to witness to a Muslim is to be a Muslim then yes, I will be the worst!

(Incidentally, it is extremely insightful to say "fear keeps the anti-Christ together. Did you know that you can actually manipulate the anti-Christ by feigning fear? But this is for mature Christians, it is possible you will not understand).

Indeed i don't understand, could you please explain a bit more extenive?

You cannot deny that a lot of conduct in islam is done because of fear of expulsion or fear of being (falsely) ashamed or insulted in their (mostly false) pride, or even worse.

Islam by definition is being aslaved to allah, exactly the opposite (anti) of being a free citizen codesigning in God's overall Design.

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The most important reason this is not happening yet is fear of expulsion or even islamic extremism.

I have read of great things re: the Holy Spirit doing wonderful works in the deepest of extreme Muslim nations. He *is* moving. We just don't hear about it on our news, because spirituality is not important to them...the truth of Yeshua is certainly not important to them. Debunking Him is. Blaming Him and His followers is. And delivered Muslims are largely underground, for the reasons you stated.

The ways we can help is to pray for their protection everyday. And financially support ministries that are/include Muslim-to-former/delivered-Muslim, like Gospel For Asia