Just to understand the thinking/theologie better of how people came to the point that Jezus was declared God, etc.
1 of the Things is that Jezus says ''don't call me good, only The Father is Good''. So Jezus mentions a difference between him beeing 'normal' and he being God.
But even for times after the 'resurrection':
In the originall tekst of Matthew 24:36-37:
36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
So If Jezus is God, how can he not know the hour that he has to come??
I don't understand it.
Thanks
Just to understand the thinking/theologie better of how people came to the point that Jezus was declared God, etc.
1 of the Things is that Jezus says ''don't call me good, only The Father is Good''. So Jezus mentions a difference between him beeing 'normal' and he being God.
But even for times after the 'resurrection':
In the originall tekst of Matthew 24:36-37:
36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
So If Jezus is God, how can he not know the hour that he has to come??
I don't understand it.
Thanks
because even thou he not the father Jesus still possesses full deity and power as the rest as the Godhead does.
Just to understand the thinking/theologie better of how people came to the point that Jezus was declared God, etc.
1 of the Things is that Jezus says ''don't call me good, only The Father is Good''. So Jezus mentions a difference between him beeing 'normal' and he being God.
But even for times after the 'resurrection':
In the originall tekst of Matthew 24:36-37:
36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
So If Jezus is God, how can he not know the hour that he has to come??
I don't understand it.
Thanks
Jesus did not sit down at the right hand of the Father at that stage and during those 50 days the disciples felt fire in their hearts. Thomas most likely bent down his knees when he said "My L-rd and my G-d"... but once Yeshua returned to His full and former glory the Apostle John fell down like a dead man! Selah.
We will share in the resurrection body and glory that Yeshua displayed to over 500 people but the glory that belongs to the Son will never be shared for He alone is worthy and how blessed is the man who beholds His face!
This is another truth supporting the plurality of the Godhead and the Trinity.
But even for times after the 'resurrection':
In the originall tekst of Matthew 24:36-37:
36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
So If Jezus is God, how can he not know the hour that he has to come??
I don't understand it.
Thanks
Jesus was a mortal man like you and I concievved in the womb by the Holy Spirit(Father) God was in Christ however like those with the Holy Ghost he wasn't told nor was He aware of the day or hour.
After He was glorified as God now knows when the time of the end is and it is coming in our lifetime for it is written that the generation that sees Israel become a nation shall not pass away before the coming of the son of man. So anyone alive in 1948 that generation shall not pass away before the return of Jesus.
Before we get to debating, let's get the quote right:
1 of the Things is that Jezus says ''don't call me good, only The Father is Good''.
A man approached Yeshua and said, "Rabbi, what good thing should I do in order to have eternal life?" He said to him, "Why are you asking me about good? There is One who is good! But if you want to obtain eternal life, observe the mitzvot." The man asked him, "Which ones?" and Yeshua said, "Don't murder, don't commit adultery, don't steal, don't give false testimony, honor father and mother and love your neighbor as yourself." The young man said to him, "I have kept all these; where do I still fall short?" Yeshua said to him, "If you are serious about reaching the goal, go and sell your possessions, give to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven. Then come, follow me!" But when the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he was wealthy. Matt. 19:16-22 CJB
-emphasis mine-
Or as recorded in Mark:
As he was starting on his way, a man ran up, kneeled down in front of him and asked, "Good rabbi, what should I do to obtain eternal life?" Yeshua said to him, "Why are you calling me good? No one is good except God! You know the mitzvot -- `Don't murder, don't commit adultery, don't steal, don't give false testimony, don't defraud, honor your father and mother, . .'" "Rabbi," he said, "I have kept all these since I was a boy." Yeshua, looking at him, felt love for him and said to him, "You're missing one thing. Go, sell whatever you own, give to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven. Then come, follow me!" Shocked by this word, he went away sad; because he was a wealthy man. Yeshua looked around and said to his talmidim, "How hard it is going to be for people with wealth to enter the Kingdom of God!" Mark 10:17-23 CJB
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Notice He doesn't say, "don't call me good", nor does he say "Father" but "One" or "God", referencing YHWH echad, which He is.
Now we can debate what was being asked and answered in this conversation.
I see it as (my simple paraphase):
man- "Good Teacher!"
Yeshua- "Are you admitting I am good, therefore YHWH? Or, if you view me as 'just another man', how can you call me 'good'?" (I read it as a rhetorical question/response. He does not say, "I am not good.")
man- "What [good] things must I do to obtain eternal life?"
Yeshua- "You can't do 'good things', but for eternal life, do these."
man- "I have!"
Yeshua- "Really? Then give it all up for God."
man- "Ugh....can't do that."
Yeshua- "Then you really haven't 'done all that'." (Haven't even born true witness about yourself just now, because you don't love your neighbor as yourself. You still love yourself more, unwilling to give your possessions away. Two mitzvot broken right there.)
Yeshua, on the other hand, King of Kings, left HEAVEN! Resided in a mortal body with all it's limitations, physical needs, etc...HE LEFT ALL HE HAD TO "REACH THE GOAL", of being treated as the lowest of men for our salvation...He was SERIOUS!
Jesus was a mortal man like you and I concievved in the womb by the Holy Spirit(Father) God was in Christ however like those with the Holy Ghost he wasn't told nor was He aware of the day or hour.
Jesus was manifested and the woman was found to be with child.
He was not conceived like you and me!
He is the great mystery!
Though He visited us in humility covered by a veil of flesh He came from eternity and was always the L-rd worthy of worship.
My L-rd and my G-d.
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Notice He doesn't say, "don't call me good", nor does he say "Father" but "One" or "God", referencing YHWH echad, which He is.
Now we can debate what was being asked and answered in this conversation.
I see it as (my simple paraphase):
man- "Good Teacher!"
Yeshua- "Are you admitting I am good, therefore YHWH? Or, if you view me as 'just another man', how can you call me 'good'?" (I read it as a rhetorical question/response. He does not say, "I am not good.")
man- "What [good] things must I do to obtain eternal life?"
Yeshua- "You can't do 'good things', but for eternal life, do these."
man- "I have!"
Yeshua- "Really? Then give it all up for God."
man- "Ugh....can't do that."
Yeshua- "Then you really haven't 'done all that'." (Haven't even born true witness about yourself just now, because you don't love your neighbor as yourself. You still love yourself more, unwilling to give your possessions away. Two mitzvot broken right there.)
Yeshua, on the other hand, King of Kings, left HEAVEN! Resided in a mortal body with all it's limitations, physical needs, etc...HE LEFT ALL HE HAD TO "REACH THE GOAL", of being treated as the lowest of men for our salvation...He was SERIOUS!
ok, then every kid on earth is YWHA...thanks for the clarification...so when you call little Johnny or Janey a good boy /girl your calling them YWHA..thanks for clearing that up and thanks for the laugh.
Christ the man...created in the womb just like you and me only differencde is He was born from the womb with the Holy Spirit in Him.
His Father was in Him His family Name Yeshua...I come in my Father's Name....
Just to understand the thinking/theologie better of how people came to the point that Jezus was declared God, etc.
1 of the Things is that Jezus says ''don't call me good, only The Father is Good''. So Jezus mentions a difference between him beeing 'normal' and he being God.
But even for times after the 'resurrection':
In the originall tekst of Matthew 24:36-37:
36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
So If Jezus is God, how can he not know the hour that he has to come??
I don't understand it.
Thanks
Y'shua said....
Why are you calling me good? There is none good but God.
Y'shua also said,
"He that hath seen me hath seen the Father".
Maybe Yahweh has not decided if everyone He wants to hear the gospel has heard it. (Even those yet to be born)
Yahweh gave Y'shua "personhood" so He might be an overcomer in every
area that we have sinned. Thus qualifying Himself as the atonement, and faithful High Priest.
O.k. thanks everybody... Maybe later some more replies
Cor 517 indeed high priest sounds more logicall. But than Jezus is not God, according to your understanding, wright?
Ripley... O.k. I did read your piece, but I don't see it, Still Good is exclusive to God only here? And the last sentence is a statement, not to do with Good or that he knows what time the end of days is...