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Now this is one you might get angry about.

Kurios in greek means Lord like God.  But it can also mean your leader like the king or your boss.

So in Matthew 24:44 where is says be ready because you Lord comes in an hour you don't expect Him.

What if it is talking about david the Prince?  What if he was born September 26, 1949 and is already here?

If gentiles have to pay money to David the Prince and if David the Prince is under authrity of Jesus functioning as King he would in deed be the lord or master of earth wouldn't he?

Jesus comes 7 years after the tribulation starts so we do know exacly when Jesus comes.  It is no surprize.  Can you really equate the rapture to Jesus coming to earth?  

The days of Lot and Noah played out over a century or more, so this would fit a david prince growing up over a period of 50 or so years then the day of the Lord, Armageddon, Apocalypse, rapture, war of God and Magog hits.

Lord is capitolized showing diety in your Bible translation,but if you go to BLB you will notice it isn't there.

Sorry Chad, I couldn't find 'Lord' in Mat 24:44, only 'Son of man' KJV, 'Anthropou' in GRK, and 'ha'adam' in Hebrew.  None I could find used any similitude to 'Lord.'  Perhaps my cursory search is in error, but I think not.  Correct me please, if I err.

OK, I'll bite, who was born September 26, 1949?  Twernt me!  Who could this 'David' type be, coming exactly as Messiah warned against accepting as true?  Here He is, There He is,  don't fly too well, according to my Bible.

Or are you just 'trolling?'

In Messiah, His Shalom, and guidance.  Arley

Don't know if this is right, but...

Are you refering to the word "lord" in Matthew 24:46?  If so, that is part of a parable, not part of the prophecy Jesus was giving.  I generally use the NKJ version so I looked up the verses on crosswalk.com using the KJV with Strong's numbers.  The Greek word kurios is used here in this verse, but it doesn't always refer to Jesus.

The word kurios is tranlsated into the following English words in the KJV NT:  Lord 667 times, lord 54 times, master 11 times, sir 6 times, Sir 6 times, miscellaneous 4 times.

I'm wondering -- how did you came up with the date of September 26, 1949?

The date was just off the top of my head.  I guess it is on my heart cause I count september 26 as my spiritual birthday.

Sorry I made the mistake on the Kurios/Lord adress.  YOu are right it is Mt 24:46, not Mt 24:44 where it says Son of Man.

September 26 might be feast of Trumpets in some years? I don't know.

MT 23:39 says Jesus, "you wont See Me again till you say blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord"

Note in this verse Jesus says Me instead of vaguely refereing to Him self as Son of Man or Lord/Kurios.

This makes me think why not say Me in V 24:44-46?

Well, obviously it could be because He is not talking about Himself.

Also, how do they see Him if He hasn't come yet.  The one who comes in the name of the Lord can be any temple worshiper or the first after it is rebuilt as this is actually a formula for Priestly blessing from Psalm 118 the way it was used.

So Jesus comes back after they build the temple and bless the Vice Regett of Jesus David the Prince?

Chad,

I hope you don't mind that I break down your last post...



I'm not 100% positive, but there is a difference between "Son of Man" and "Lord".  I know that the title "son of man" refers to a prophet and am pretty sure that "Lord" refers to his being God the Son.  They are not vague terms but specific terms he applied to Himself (and those that heard Him refer to Himself that way knew exactly what He meant).  Now, why did he say Me in one place and not in the others?  I don't know for sure, but I tend to think that in using certain terms for Himself, he was trying to drive a point home.



Actually he was.  Both times.  In verse 44 He was refering to Himself specifically.  In the parable that starts in verse 45 He was referring to Himself indirectly.  The "master" is Jesus.



I have no idea what you mean in the first sentence.  My most eloquent response would be, "Huh?"

As for the rest, the first "one" who will come after the temple is rebuilt will be the Anti-Christ.



Again, I'm not sure what you are trying to say.  I never heard of the concept of a Vice Regent for Jesus.  And I've never before heard of Jesus being refered to as David the Prince, if that's what you mean.  I've never even heard of the title David the Prince and when I tried to "google" it, I came up with nothing.

Great that you could go out on a limb like that Chad - I hope it doesn't burden you to do that.

Have you thought that perhaps Christ speaking of the end in 25 verses 3 times is significant (to working out His timing)?

Perchance, my response, in blue, above, could explain why Jesus spoke as He did?  Just a thought.

Shalom, in Messiah.  Arley

Lot and Noach became actually quite old.... but there is a tradition that the building of the ark took about 100 years... so people had enough time, till that hour it started to rain. The ''sin'' of Noach was that he was not warning people about that hour, he didn't pass the message on, but it looked like he did build the ark for Himself, Family and Animals. And even afterwards he thought of being in paradise getting drunk again while being as Adam and Eve naked in the garding, enjoying the fruits... Maybe thats why also this text in Matthew warns to eat with drunkards.

But anyway I don't have Gods knowledge what hour he comes... Even Jesus doesn't according to verse 36. So even Jesus doesn't have Gods knowledge and also for him it will be a surprice-party?

And besides that, does God realy knows the hour if HE lives in eternity, (what do hours or days mean than anyway?).

So you just have to be ready, even when you ''sleep'', during all the eternity of every hour, even in the days that hours will be shorter.

I have no idea where you are getting your information from...

Hebrews 11:7 (KJV) By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

2nd Peter 2:5 (KJV) And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

(emphasis mine)

I fail to see where Noah sinned.  It looks like he did pass the message on, either through words or actions.




Mark 13:32 (KJV) But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

This needs to be reconciled with the following verse:

Matthew 11:27 (KJV) All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

It was not something Jesus did not know, but was something he was not commisioned to disclose.




I certainly hope so!  I have an appointment to be "raptured" prior to "The Day of the Lord"!  Seriously, though, my understanding is that although there will be "a day and hour" it is not so much a calender date the Lord has in mind but when things are ready for Him to proceed.




Absolutely!