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SANTA VS. JESUS

Santa lives at the North Pole.
JESUS is everywhere simultaneously.

Santa rides in a sleigh
JESUS rides on the wind, walks on the water, a will return bodily with a loud trump in the clouds.

Santa comes but once a year
JESUS is an ever present help.

Santa fills your stockings with goodies
JESUS supplies all our needs.

Santa comes down your chimney...uninvited
JESUS stands at your door and knocks..
And then enters your heart,
filling you with the baptism of His Holy Spirit,
causing you to shout out a new language when HE does.

You have to stand in line to see Santa
JESUS is as close as the mention of His name.

Santa lets you sit on his lap
JESUS lets you rest in His arms.

Santa doesn't know your name, all he can say is
"Hi little boy or girl, What's your name?"

JESUS knew our name before we even existed.
Not only does He know our name,
He knows our address too.
He knows our history and future and He
even knows how many hairs are on our heads.

Santa has a belly like a bowl full of jelly
JESUS has a heart full of love that loves us deeper then even our own mother can.

All Santa can offer is HO HO HO
JESUS offers Health, Help and Hope.

Santa says "You better not cry"
JESUS says "Cast all your cares on me for I care for you."
and one day soon, He will forever wipe away every tear.

Santa's little helpers make toys
JESUS makes us into a new creature, mends wounded hearts,
repairs broken homes and builds mansions.
And he needs Zero help to do it all.

Santa may make you chuckle but
JESUS gives you joy unspeakable and full of Glory!
and a joy that will always be your strength.

Santa is known as the "jolly old elf"
Jesus was made known to us as GOD Almighty robed in Flesh!

While Santa is believed to put gifts under your tree
JESUS became our gift and died on the tree.

Jesus is Better than Santa
because unlike Santa... Jesus is REAL!

It's obvious there is really no comparison.
So, We need to remember WHO Christmas is all about.

We need to remember that Jesus Christ is Christmas.

Jesus, still is, and always has been, the reason for the season.

I was going to joke a bit with you, but think I will simply say:  Well Said !

We are  not celebrating a 'birthday' day, but on a specific 'day,' we celebrate His birth.

In Messiah, His Shalom, and blessing.  Arley

I never like the santa clause I mean he knows when your asleep or if ya awake?

he knows all your actions etc... sounds like to me an idol.

I tend to see santa false god.


No christian parents should teach there little ones that there is a santa that knows everything you do or say.

only The true God knows this.


But there was a real saint nicholas who did gave gold to the poor etc... and give to children but He was just a mere man doing God work.

Hi, I just understood the complete reason why SantaClaus went from our Dutch Celebration on the 5th of December to Christmas... not only by CocaCola comercials etc....

When England took over the Dutch Colonies in/around New York, they had to get rid of the 'too free' Dutch tolerance. That ment also that the Pelgims who where forbidden to celebrate other things than the Anglican Church allowed, wher oppressed again. The Calvinist Pelgrims learned to celebrate Thanksgiving in Holland and also knew about our Sinterklaas.
When New York became English again, Thanksgiving and Sinterklaas at first went underground... because it was not allowed than. Later those festivalls, and Halloween came out the closet again, with often new dates, and new traditions in the States...

Santa Claus was around the year 400 a Christian Turkish Priest in Mira. His day was december 5th, he was good for children and often gave presents. In the benelux and parts of Germany it became via Spain (and the trading of Dutch with Turkey around the 1500-1600's a North European tradition).

Funny side issue, is that 1 ancestor mr. Thomas Blossom, was 1 of the Pelgrims, who fled from England to Holland first. He didn't make it to go to the U.S.A. on the mayflower, so he went later; in 1629 to Plymouth, Massachusetts.
His son Peter is an ancestor of the Presidents Bush.
His daughter Elizabeth is an ancestor of President Obama.
Sources:
New England Historic Genealogical Society in Boston
and the City-archives of Leiden - Holland.

Let's see what Obama has to give the country for kind of Pres(id)ent...

I'm with you! Next year, your house? You, me, and ten others? Just tell me what to bring....

Hey ya'll, I recently read something about the shepherds being in the fields guarding the sheep primarily during the season when baby lambs come or the spring time in other words. Have any of you ever ran any research trails on that?

Feast of tabernacles is good guess but I still celebreate christmas  not because I believe he was born this day but he was born at all.




as for  christmas being pagan I disagree if anyone want soruces to what I know  about dec 25 just pm me.


I dont t want to hijacked this thread

Threads evolve. Please share.

for starters since I'm not at home so i do not not have all my links at hand to share but found these 3 rather easy on the net that I have at home.


http://www.prpc-stl.org/auto_images/1071...f_Xmas.htm


http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/ar...6-10-012-v


http://www.orlutheran.com/html/chrmas_pagan1.html