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Hallo,

I do not like "Jews for Jesus" very much- on account of their behaviour and not their faith.
You agree with the Evangelical Christians on ALL issues (Holy Trinity, the Resurrection, the Assention, the adult baptism), but at the same time call your  churches "synagogues", your pastors "rabbis" and your ideology "(Messianic) Judaism" rather than "Christian fundamentalism".
Why not just to say "We are Jewish converts, Evangelical Christians, join our church-or you are doomed to hell" ?

The problem with that is that most of the people involved with
the Messianic faith are gentiles, not Jews.

But I agree, I don't understand why most Messiaics (especially the
few Jewish ones)  are so upset about being called Christians.

  Hello.  Welcome to the site.  

Welcome to the board, Gudea. Why don't you hang around the forum here awhile and find out?

Gudea,
"Jews for Jesus" simply means "Jewish Christians, or Messianic Jews, who practice Judaism in the way that the Jewish Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth, practiced Judaism;" or "Jews who are Christians because of Jesus of Nazareth". I myself was born of a Jewish dad whose Jewish predecessors were coverts to Roman and Byzantine Catholicism.

Gudea, Shalom.

I am sorry that you seem to think that you see traitorisms in JFJ.  Those raised in Judaism,  much as Messiah was, have not given any part of their faith away, but have only accepted the very person that Israel has been looking for these thousands of years:  Meshiach, Immanuel, who was named Yaushuah, and called Y'shuah.

I ask you, what better proof could a person desire, as to His deity, than having been killed, placed in a tomb, and as He prophesied, Resurrected back to life, taught for forty days, and then Ascended, to His Father, and ours.  We have far more than the two required witnesses to these events, as required by Mosaic Law.

Rather than argue with your offering, I would prefer to pray that the Father, our Elohim, lift the veil of blindness, that is on your eyes, and you see Messiah, for whom He is, The Messiah, of Israel, and the World, that we all may be equal members of His Holy Family.  Amen

In Messiah, His Shalom, and Grace.  Arley  

Respectfully, you have it a little backwards. Evangelical Christians agree with the Messianic Jewish followers of the Jewish Mashiach Yeshua and what they wrote in the GT/NT.

I beg of you my Brothers and Sisters to enlighten me as to what are the basic tenets of your beliefs.

I have been raised as a Christian Fundamentalist and I am very interested in learning more about other believers and what they believe.

I should point out that I am a Universalist in that I don't believe that the teaching of Hell as a place of eternal torment is scriptural.

Please guide me.

Hallo,

1. You can be "Jew for Jesus" no more "Hindu for Buddha"; you can
    (and should) just say "We are Jewish converts to Christianity" and I
    highly respect people (like your predecessors) who do not lie to
    themselves and ther fellow Jews.

2. I do not accuse "Jews for Jesus" of treaturism- just of hypocrisy
    and...blasphemy. An (Evangelical) Christian calling his church
    "synagogue", his pastor "rabbi", banishing the Cross from the house of
     worships to set the Star of David in its place offends his own religion !

3. I respect the freedom of faith- but hate hypocritical missionaries.
    If an Orthodox Jewish missionary group called its synagogues
    "churches", its rabbis "pastors" and itself "Gentiles for Judaism", just to
    make its work easier it would be an outrage too.

To Gudea-

I hope you aren't makeing the mistake of counting all Messianics as "Jews for Jesus".  You are looking at a movement in flux.  There is a spectrum of all different kinds of Messianics.  In fact, JFJ is the most "Christian" of Messianic groups.  Your critique of them not being up front applies least to the actuall organization JFJ who for the most part, are the least offended by being called "Christian" of messianic groups.

JFJ is parachurch and doesn't have synagogues.  

But thanks Gudea, your question is representative of alot of people who are confused by what is going on in Messianic Judaism.