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Why is it that dairy is not used in cooking with beef and lamb. .. and is it with cooking only. What about a slice of cheese on a hamburger.

It's written 3 times in Tenach not to cook a young animal (not always specified what kind of) in it's mothers milk.
The ruling came from during the expulsion in Babylon. Might have been older, and stays next to the other rulings.

So there where Rabbi's who ate Chicken with milk-products, For Chicken was not considered meat (and the text says meat), and a Chicken doesn't give milk.
But not to confuse different meats etc. it became a ruling not to eat chicken and milk(products) together.

So a Cheesburger is not allowed.
If by exident you spoiled a tiny little bit milk (less even than 2percent) on meat or so, it's not a big deal. If it's more Jews consider the meat spoiled.

There are a lot of rules given to Jews about it.
Non-Jews don't have to take this ruling upon them, according to Judaism/God.

Just to expound a little bit, it is written three times in the Tanach
about not cooking meat in milk, and from this it is derived that
we should not cook it together, eat it together, nor derived
benefit from this mixture.

As Yetz says, the chicken/milk prohibition is a rabbinical prohibition
to prevent us from transgressing a Torah prohibition.

I've always been curious about that prohibition also. Could it not be a prohibition against doing that which is cruel? In my mind the picture I see is that of a cow seeing its child/calf being butched and boiled in the milk the mother cow provided. The picture in Torah for us humans would be to not do anything that is inhumane to animals or any other application like that.

Would that not be true?

Sure, like shooing away the mother bird from the nest before taking the eggs.

But that does not mean it should not be taken literally either.

And every time we do not mix meat and milk we are reminded
against not only that mixture, but against cruelty.

That is one of the lovely thing about mitzvot-every time you do
them you are reminded of your connection to the Almighty.

For instance-and I think I have mentioned this here somewhere, so
if you have heard it forgive me- I met a Christian who was deriding
me for not using elevators on shabbas. How it was not "work".
But he completely missed the point and connection between elevators
and G-d. On his sabbath, he gets on the elevator and gets to his
destination. Period. On my shabbas, I consciously make the decision
to not get on the elevator. So I remember that it is a holy day, that it
is a time of rest as commanded by G-d. It takes a thing such as
using an elevator and elevates it (pun intended) to a higher status,
a holy status as it reminds us of G-d, shabbas, and His commandments.

So it is with all the mitzvot.

Chow woman




It might be one of the reasons. But it's not so clear why The Almighty gave the ruling that is written down 3 times. So to fill the reason in, might be commentary...

It might also have been Babylonian culture / crualty. Like the had a God to sacrifice baby's to, and sometimes they burnt people...

Thing is that The Almighty ordered us not do it. That's the main thing.

Certainly, it against the Torah Law to be cruel to animals, but the Jewish dietary laws are not because of that. Basically, we do not know God's reasons for these Laws.

If what you say is true, then why is it OK to cook, for example, a deer in it's mother's milk? The prohibitions in the Torah against mixing milk and meat do not apply to animals other than "domesticated" ones like cows, sheep and goats.

"But not to confuse different meats etc. it became a ruling not to eat chicken and milk(products) together."

Deuteronomy tells us: "Everything I command you that you shall be careful to do it. You shall neither add to it, nor subtract from it."  Isn't this addition of a command to not mix chicken with milk a violation of this injunction of Deuteronomy?

Well, logically, because you wouldn't be eating them to start with if you're following the Law. No one is going to take the time to boil anything in milk if they're going to throw the mixture out when they're done. So you don't need a prohibition against deer meat.

SQ,
You are turning a "negative/don't" command into a positive in that way.
In the NT we have a verse that says, (I Cor 10:31) "Whether, then, you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of G-d."

Sephardic Jews who have a meditaranian diet seem the most healthy to me.

It is the cold water fish.

Israeis have a low fat diet but still high disease rates cause of the soy bean oil.

Soy oil would be healthy but it is hot press and not cold press, they might even use chemicals to separte it.

At least this is what I have heard.

I think it is good to be a pesko vegetarian but not a pesky vegetarian.

Parve makes you be a vegetarian alot and kosher and shabat makes you eat whole foods at least one day a week.

My observations, could be wrong.