JFJ Forums - Triple Point

Inasmuch as it is very difficult for us to conceive of Triune YHWH echad, and the limitation of our own mortal minds (limited to our own senses, and laws of physics, that God created) I offer this similarly "unimaginable" state of water: SIMULTANEOUSLY solid, liquid, gas.

It is called The Triple Point of Water.

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The single combination of pressure and temperature at which water, ice, and water vapour can coexist in a stable equilibrium occurs at exactly 273.16 K (0.01 °C) and a partial vapour pressure of 611.73 pascals (ca. 6.1173 millibars, 0.0060373057 atm). At that point, it is possible to change all of the substance to ice, water, or vapor by making arbitrarily small changes in pressure and temperature.

Now I am not saying that God is dictated by the laws of nature, certainly He is not. But can YOU wrap your brain around water being solid, liquid, and gas at the same time? I can't.

This is just another "quirky science thingy" that I wanted to use to display that our minds are not always able of comprehending concepts. But that doesn't make them untrue.

We can't fully, or to intellectual satisfaction, describe (or understand completely) our Truine God. He IS outside of our literal realm of senses. We can't comprehend Three that ARE One because WE have never "experienced" anything like that. We have no intellectual reference from which to work.

However, it is what God says about Himself. From the opening lines of Tanakh, to the opening of our understanding of His Word, by the One Who could: Yeshua. Just as was expected/anticipated, Messiah opened Tanakh and revealed truths that to that point weren't fully revealed, only alluded to. And the Holy Spirit must open our spiritual eyes to the truth Yeshua revealed.

Let His Spirit reveal the truth to your spirit.

Chuck Missler says this phrase often:

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The Jewish rabbis have a quaint way of expressing this very idea: they say that they will not understand the Scriptures until the Messiah comes. But when He comes, He will not only interpret each of the passages for us, He will interpret the very words; He will even interpret the very letters themselves; in fact, He will even interpret the spaces between the letters!

When I first heard this, I simply dismissed this as a colorful exaggeration. Until I reread Matthew 5:17 and 18:

"Think not that I have come to destroy the Torah and the prophets; I have not come to destroy but to fulfill.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

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If that (first) sentiment is not said by Jewish Rabbis, my apologies for posting an untruth.

Acts.10
[38] How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

If you can wrap your brain around the fact that the heart has a muscular belt around it's circumfrence that looks like a figure 8 that controls it's beat and rhythm, It is easy to understand that no evolutionary process would be capable of gradually producing cell structures over periods of any amounts of years that would be sufficient to keep the heart pumping 12 pts. of blood throughout the body in any systematic way well enough to support the functions, or supply the oxygen necessary to maintain the other functioning organs of the body.

In other words, Yahweh formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed into Him the breath of life, and He did it in 1 day.

cor~

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heart has a muscular belt around it's circumfrence that looks like a figure 8

Now that's really cool! Um, is it on it's side like the "infinity" sign? Curious.

Rather even more so when you consider the intertwined ligatures that support the spinal column as medical terminology would deem, the pelvic girdle.

Think about all the one celled organisms we have now.... what happened to the evolutionary process with them, eh?

Besides, I sure don't see any apes walking the street with brief
cases containing important documents.

2cor517

RE: Jesus fulfilled over 300 prophecies
please read this also...

http://oneheartbeataway.blogspot.com/

Hebrews 9

1 -[26] But now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

2 -[28] So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

3 -[24] For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

Ripley's Wrote:

Inasmuch as it is very difficult for us to conceive of Triune YHWH echad, and the limitation of our own mortal minds (limited to our own senses, and laws of physics, that God created) I offer this similarly "unimaginable" state of water: SIMULTANEOUSLY solid, liquid, gas.

It is called The Triple Point of Water.

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The single combination of pressure and temperature at which water, ice, and water vapour can coexist in a stable equilibrium occurs at exactly 273.16 K (0.01 °C) and a partial vapour pressure of 611.73 pascals (ca. 6.1173 millibars, 0.0060373057 atm). At that point, it is possible to change all of the substance to ice, water, or vapor by making arbitrarily small changes in pressure and temperature.

Now I am not saying that God is dictated by the laws of nature, certainly He is not. But can YOU wrap your brain around water being solid, liquid, and gas at the same time? I can't.

I don't understand your point. You seem to disprove your point before making it. You show how the three can exist simultaneously and then claim you can't understand how the three can exist simultaneously. A simpler answer to this is that if I pour hot water on ice I see all three states at the same time. So, I don't understand your post.

Ripley ...all you did was prove my point....

Jesus is the ice...God in solid form
The Spirit is the Father and Holy Spirit(which are one and the same)...in "liquid form"

so since there is no "trinity" in water....water is steam is ice...still water

God is Spirit is Jesus....still One person