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Revelation 3:21 (King James Version)

21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

if God is One in number not unity why two thrones?
John 14:4-11
4 And where I go you know, and the way you know." 5 Thomas said to Him, "Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?" 6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7 "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him." 8 Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." 9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.

So, The sonship of Yeshuah is mixed with the living God Hashem, Thus for Yeshuah to sit down with His father in His throne...
that is the same as Yeshuah eating a lamb sandwich with His father when He was hanging out with His deciples in Jerusalem.

There is one throne, even as there was one Lamb sandwich.

why is this so hard for you to grasp?
where do you get this mythical "two thrones"?
Did you see these two thrones in a vision?

You couldn't have for John saw only one in Revelations and it was Yeshuah Who sat there in.

Nice try...
How does the oneness trinity explain that verse ?
Or
How does the trinity not give a third throne for the HG ?

Steadfast Wrote:

John 14:4-11
4 And where I go you know, and the way you know." 5 Thomas said to Him, "Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?" 6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7 "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him." 8 Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." 9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.

So, The sonship of Yeshuah is mixed with the living God Hashem, Thus for Yeshuah to sit down with His father in His throne...
that is the same as Yeshuah eating a lamb sandwich with His father when He was hanging out with His deciples in Jerusalem.

There is one throne, even as there was one Lamb sandwich.

why is this so hard for you to grasp?
where do you get this mythical "two thrones"?
Did you see these two thrones in a vision?

You couldn't have for John saw only one in Revelations and it was Yeshuah Who sat there in.

Nice try...



steadfast BUT please Look at the words Mine and His these are two very opposite words.

so How can that be one throne?


So, The sonship of Yeshuah is mixed with the living God Hashem, Thus for Yeshuah to sit down with His father in His throne...
that is the same as Yeshuah eating a lamb sandwich with His father when He was hanging out with His deciples in Jerusalem.


Revelation 3:21 (King James Version)

21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

now you say that God is one in number so does God split his own being up with his human side on one throne and his spirit on the other? If So why would jesus use terminology  Mine and his?


Bible-Gazer Wrote:

How does the oneness trinity explain that verse ?
Or
How does the trinity not give a third throne for the HG ?





The holy spirit is subjected under The father and Son
Steadfast Wrote:

John 14:4-11
4 And where I go you know, and the way you know." 5 Thomas said to Him, "Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?" 6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7 "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him." 8 Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." 9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.

So, The sonship of Yeshuah is mixed with the living God Hashem, Thus for Yeshuah to sit down with His father in His throne...
that is the same as Yeshuah eating a lamb sandwich with His father when He was hanging out with His deciples in Jerusalem.

There is one throne, even as there was one Lamb sandwich.

why is this so hard for you to grasp?
where do you get this mythical "two thrones"?
Did you see these two thrones in a vision?

You couldn't have for John saw only one in Revelations and it was Yeshuah Who sat there in.

Nice try...



You need two pieces of Bread to make a sandwich I thought God was One in number like oneness teach?


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You couldn't have for John saw only one in Revelations and it was Yeshuah Who sat there in.



Wrong. It states "the One Who sat on the throne was the One, being worshipped by the angels and elders as LORD/ADONAI/YHWH, Who the Lamb *took* the scroll *from*"....not one/the same person.

You have a big problem here.

Read Rev 4 & 5 for yourself.
Sugarman= The holy spirit is subjected under The father and Son

Is Jesus not subjected unto the father
yet he has a throne ?
That is easy…my friend...

When you see Jesus, you see the Physical embodiment of God.
So where Jesus sits, Hashem sits. Where Jesus walks, Hashem Walks. Before Jesus was born Hashem filled the all in all yet was manifested in heaven. After Jesus was born God still filled the all in all yet was manifested in Jesus for 33 years.

So, The sonship of Jesus is mixed with the living God Hashem,
So for Jesus to sit down with His Father in His throne is the same as
Jesus eating a lamb sandwich with His Father when He was hanging out with His deciples in Jerusalem.

Thus, There is one throne, even as there was one Lamb sandwich.

Jesus is fully human and Fully God, so before He was “glorified” He was 100% of the human species and as a member of the species of mankind He was not yet privileged to certain things and also subject to Human species temptations and commandments. Thus, Hashem, being Jesus the human got tired, became hungry and put on his pants one leg at a time. Hashem, being Jesus the human obeyed the Laws of Moses. Hashem, being Jesus the human, prayed to The divine majesty “The Father! Thus, Hashem, being Jesus the human was temporarily not privileged to the knowledge of the moment of the last trump!

Now that Jesus is fully glorified, Jesus as Hashem in Glorified flesh broke the very bonds hell and death. Jesus as Hashem in Glorified flesh can break the very bonds of the time space continuum. As Jesus did just before and when he ascended. And that is why Jesus as Hashem in Glorified flesh will be the only one we see in our glorified flesh when we meet Him in the air. And why Jesus as Hashem in Glorified flesh will be the only one on the throne of Hashem and the one who will dry our tears.

Because It is written
John 14:4-10
4 And where I go you know, and the way you know." 5 Thomas said to Him, "Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?" 6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7 "If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him." 8 Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us." 9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.
My above posted answer was made to answer this question...

sugarman Wrote:

Revelation 3:21 (King James Version)

21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

now you say that God is one in number so does God split his own being up with his human side on one throne and his spirit on the other? If So why would jesus use terminology  Mine and his?

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