03-09-2009, 11:00 PM
The Election !
First of all i did try to translate from Dutch in English and boy is this hard for me ,but here i give you some thoughts why I believe that the election of gods children is in gods plan from the beginning from before the creation of the world .
Sorry if not every thing is written perfect .
But I did try out of love to all of my brothers ,
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part 1
The Election .
The word election includes a controversial concept, but also multiple views.
Let me mention 3 different views that I think are important here in detail:
1: They say: God has beforehand determined for each man what his final destination will be. This is the z, g. Predestination doctrine, which says that every human being God pre-destined upgraded(predestnined) to heaven or Hell, before the creation took place.
(We should remember that those who hold this teaching "hell " must be interpreted with eternal torment.)
2: It is also said: Election means that only God knew beforehand who would believe in him later. It view would be a passive view of knowledge and not active for destination.
It would also teach the selective gift of God in working for a power in every man naturally.
3: And it is said further: 'election means that nobody, not even God, can know in advance if you are chosen, it is a matter of wait and see. If at the end of the allotted time it will be revealed if you succeeded, and your find election place is shown on the basis of commitment and perseverance "
In short, a selection of performance.
Christ as his disciples explains that He is the true vine, and therefore if they continue to bear much fruit, he says "You have not chosen me, but I have chosen .." (John15: 16)
This election is the separation between them and the rest of the world, because He says "... but because you are not of the world, but I can from the world have chosen, therefore the world hates you" (John 15:18 -- 20
Hatred is the separation between resident and non resident. It is only the elect given the words of Jesus Christ to understand and adopt the man, because a man can not adopt him as said in the scripture the above.(John 3:27)
Says the Lord "Nobody can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him .... and they will be taught by God,and
Anyone who has heard of the Father and learned (the elect) is to Me "(John6: 44,45,65)
Even the henchman of Satan are among the elect (John 6: 70.71)
Because one is chosen to work (they are accountable vessels)
and the other is chosen to evil works (the fair equivalent vessels)
Nobody is able to take Christ as his Savior and Master, unless the Father in heaven has revealed this to him by the Spirit,
First of all i did try to translate from Dutch in English and boy is this hard for me ,but here i give you some thoughts why I believe that the election of gods children is in gods plan from the beginning from before the creation of the world .
Sorry if not every thing is written perfect .
But I did try out of love to all of my brothers ,
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part 1
The Election .
The word election includes a controversial concept, but also multiple views.
Let me mention 3 different views that I think are important here in detail:
1: They say: God has beforehand determined for each man what his final destination will be. This is the z, g. Predestination doctrine, which says that every human being God pre-destined upgraded(predestnined) to heaven or Hell, before the creation took place.
(We should remember that those who hold this teaching "hell " must be interpreted with eternal torment.)
2: It is also said: Election means that only God knew beforehand who would believe in him later. It view would be a passive view of knowledge and not active for destination.
It would also teach the selective gift of God in working for a power in every man naturally.
3: And it is said further: 'election means that nobody, not even God, can know in advance if you are chosen, it is a matter of wait and see. If at the end of the allotted time it will be revealed if you succeeded, and your find election place is shown on the basis of commitment and perseverance "
In short, a selection of performance.
Christ as his disciples explains that He is the true vine, and therefore if they continue to bear much fruit, he says "You have not chosen me, but I have chosen .." (John15: 16)
This election is the separation between them and the rest of the world, because He says "... but because you are not of the world, but I can from the world have chosen, therefore the world hates you" (John 15:18 -- 20
Hatred is the separation between resident and non resident. It is only the elect given the words of Jesus Christ to understand and adopt the man, because a man can not adopt him as said in the scripture the above.(John 3:27)
Says the Lord "Nobody can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him .... and they will be taught by God,and
Anyone who has heard of the Father and learned (the elect) is to Me "(John6: 44,45,65)
Even the henchman of Satan are among the elect (John 6: 70.71)
Because one is chosen to work (they are accountable vessels)
and the other is chosen to evil works (the fair equivalent vessels)
Nobody is able to take Christ as his Savior and Master, unless the Father in heaven has revealed this to him by the Spirit,