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Oh one more site, this guy is amazingly thorough in his responses... Read up on some of his material and "refute" him... He likes challenges!

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/bad53.html
searchinmyroots Wrote:

Neotetro Wrote:

I find it interesting how most rabbis won't hold public debates anymore. Especially with Dr. Brown. Of course if you watch some of his debates you can see why.


The problem with "debates" is the  one who is most "eloquent" usually wins. The one who is the better speaker or who is more prepared, not neccessarily the one who is right.

Another problem is that most people have their own beliefs and are just watching to "back" their debater, not necessarily to understand and research the facts.

It is much better if you read the presented facts and then come to your conclusion.

I'm sure there was many a political debater who "won" the debate, but really wasn't good for the position as the other.


The real purpose of debates are to raise issues for the audience members to more fully investigate.
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"The real purpose of debates are to raise issues for the audience members to more fully investigate."

SMR:

I think I agree on that point. Don't look into personalities or who has a better presentation, look at the facts presented, investigate and form a conclusion
searchinmyroots Wrote:

The problem with "debates" is the  one who is most "eloquent" usually wins. The one who is the better speaker or who is more prepared, not neccessarily the one who is right.
It is much better if you read the presented facts and then come to your conclusion.
I'm sure there was many a political debater who "won" the debate, but really wasn't good for the position as the other.
Are you talking about Obama?[dry humor] It seems most likely our political views are the same SMR; Israel is being Railroaded by the E.U./U.N.; Roadmap for peace. One thing about truth; Even Daniel speaks of a little horn that arises out of ten; A powerful leader that speaks eloquent words, and performs miracles, and deceives many[but not Dr. Brown or Yehoshua], but the enemy of Israel; The reincarnation of pure evil is coming to deceive ; even the elect if He can! Yeshua died to bring eternal life, and G-d's love, but never said ,not to obey the law! My point is ;  Eloquence; shall not stand before ; The G-d of Israel!, and everything shall pass away; The U.S. Britain, Sweden , Russia, China , Iran,every Nation shall pass away, but Israel!. Time is what confirms truth, speaks truth; when what is said ; comes to pass!, and then; All shall know Him !Have peace  in your heart; If Yehoshua is real;and in G-d's will; He will show you! You are here to disprove untruth, and defend the G-d of Israel! He knows your heart; just don't stop, and perhaps we shall all find a deeper understanding of truth! Shalom
searchinmyroots Wrote:

The problem with "debates" is the  one who is most "eloquent" usually wins. The one who is the better speaker or who is more prepared, not neccessarily the one who is right.

Another problem is that most people have their own beliefs and are just watching to "back" their debater, not necessarily to understand and research the facts.

It is much better if you read the presented facts and then come to your conclusion.

I'm sure there was many a political debater who "won" the debate, but really wasn't good for the position as the other.


That's not the way Rabbi Schmuley does it, it seems that he feels the louder and more outrageous you are during the debate dictates the winner...but really in a debate, we pick the winners.

I have been on Dr. Brown's show before, I have great respect for the man and encourage anyone interested to tune into his shows...
Little King Wrote:

searchinmyroots Wrote:

The problem with "debates" is the  one who is most "eloquent" usually wins. The one who is the better speaker or who is more prepared, not neccessarily the one who is right.

Another problem is that most people have their own beliefs and are just watching to "back" their debater, not necessarily to understand and research the facts.

It is much better if you read the presented facts and then come to your conclusion.

I'm sure there was many a political debater who "won" the debate, but really wasn't good for the position as the other.


That's not the way Rabbi Schmuley does it, it seems that he feels the louder and more outrageous you are during the debate dictates the winner...but really in a debate, we pick the winners.

I have been on Dr. Brown's show before, I have great respect for the man and encourage anyone interested to tune into his shows...
Daniel does speak of the wilful King with eloquent words. It sure worked for Obama. People usally only want to hear what tickles thier ears. Not to discredit Yehoshua; [ Jesus]-[Son of man]-[Son of G-d]. I just realized Yehoshua translates into two words;like two Covenants; Hayah; The Lord G-d]-The perfect law[632 laws], Hayah;[ Your forgiveness]= G-d's Love written on the heart[ Yeshua]
i agree with the scripture little king posted for i was saved from about 20 years of alcoholism and addiction of cigarettes in one night.God completely took the cravings away to never return after i told him how i believed in the gospel of jesus.(1986).After that miracle i began telling people about it and if they don't believe the scriptures they won't believe me.after that happened to me i got baptized in the Holy Ghost and in water and began giving away bibles and wittnessing and God spoke to me in a dream at night with a very few words that led me to prophecy already spoken by the prophet Joel. and one afternoon i was given a vision in the afternoon sky and i wasn't in a trance but as i watched the vision develop i felt weak in my legs and got a chair  and sat down to watch.but if i try to tell some people about it they just think i'm crazy . which i understand as if someone had told me of such a thing when i was lost in texas honky tonks i may have thought the same thing.
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