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The idea of agape self sacrificeing love is not in any religion except Messianic Judaism and the Breet Hadasha (Christian form of that yes too).

On the don't side blog of this someone asked how love your neighbor was a new command.  What is new is your enemy is included in neigbor and Jesus says love your enemies.

This helps alot.  I had a dream last night of babies and realized I want love and don't get it.  The solution isn't to act sick like I have been psychosomaticly doing.  The solution is showing love is more potent than giving it.

Even if they don't recieve your love if you make up your mind to be a love person it works.  When you read 1 Corinthians 13 something in me tells me it is true and scripture.  Inspired by God!

It isn't logical.  But it works.  Love endures all and overcomes all.

I have been a clanging prophecy knowledge guy too much but Chapter 13 of Corinthians points out that love will go on, agape love forever even when faith and hope have been completed.

Chad Wrote:

The idea of agape self sacrificeing love is not in any religion except Messianic Judaism and the Breet Hadasha (Christian form of that yes too).

On the don't side blog of this someone asked how love your neighbor was a new command.  What is new is your enemy is included in neigbor and Jesus says love your enemies.

This helps alot.  I had a dream last night of babies and realized I want love and don't get it.  The solution isn't to act sick like I have been psychosomaticly doing.  The solution is showing love is more potent than giving it.

Even if they don't recieve your love if you make up your mind to be a love person it works.  When you read 1 Corinthians 13 something in me tells me it is true and scripture.  Inspired by God!

It isn't logical.  But it works.  Love endures all and overcomes all.

I have been a clanging prophecy knowledge guy too much but Chapter 13 of Corinthians points out that love will go on, agape love forever even when faith and hope have been completed.

I agree on one hand and on the other we live in a safe country that the founding fathers, who were very committed to their faith in God, had to fight for, the freedom we now have is because they refused to have taxation without represention, they refused to have their unalienable rights to worship God taken from them, they fought so they could have freedom of religion among much more. How do you reconcile love thy neighbor while you are oppressed and innocent people are suffering? Can it be loving the person who is sinnin by condoning it or worse enabling it is not loving them at all and to stand up and stop them turns out is more loving to them, ourselves, and others. Is it not ok once in all of Gods writings to throw out the temple desecraters? If Allied forces had not intervened how many more jews would Hitler have murdered? I think there is a day when you have to fight, with whatever God has given you, to ensure peace. If I am wrong please correct me, I welcome it, but if I am right then open your eyes to see that it just might be the time to take action.

HOPE7 Wrote:

Chad Wrote:

The idea of agape self sacrificeing love is not in any religion except Messianic Judaism and the Breet Hadasha (Christian form of that yes too).

On the don't side blog of this someone asked how love your neighbor was a new command.  What is new is your enemy is included in neigbor and Jesus says love your enemies.

This helps alot.  I had a dream last night of babies and realized I want love and don't get it.  The solution isn't to act sick like I have been psychosomaticly doing.  The solution is showing love is more potent than giving it.

Even if they don't recieve your love if you make up your mind to be a love person it works.  When you read 1 Corinthians 13 something in me tells me it is true and scripture.  Inspired by God!

It isn't logical.  But it works.  Love endures all and overcomes all.

I have been a clanging prophecy knowledge guy too much but Chapter 13 of Corinthians points out that love will go on, agape love forever even when faith and hope have been completed.

I agree on one hand and on the other we live in a safe country that the founding fathers, who were very committed to their faith in God, had to fight for, the freedom we now have is because they refused to have taxation without represention, they refused to have their unalienable rights to worship God taken from them, they fought so they could have freedom of religion among much more. How do you reconcile love thy neighbor while you are oppressed and innocent people are suffering? Can it be loving the person who is sinnin by condoning it or worse enabling it is not loving them at all and to stand up and stop them turns out is more loving to them, ourselves, and others. Is it not ok once in all of Gods writings to throw out the temple desecraters? If Allied forces had not intervened how many more jews would Hitler have murdered? I think there is a day when you have to fight, with whatever God has given you, to ensure peace. If I am wrong please correct me, I welcome it, but if I am right then open your eyes to see that it just might be the time to take action.

Faith, Don't forget about the old standby: Tough-Love. Just a thought.

In Messiah, His Shalom, and correction. Arley Cheesygrin

Chad Wrote:

The idea of agape self sacrificeing love is not in any religion except Messianic Judaism and the Breet Hadasha (Christian form of that yes too).

On the don't side blog of this someone asked how love your neighbor was a new command.  What is new is your enemy is included in neigbor and Jesus says love your enemies.

This helps alot.  I had a dream last night of babies and realized I want love and don't get it.  The solution isn't to act sick like I have been psychosomaticly doing.  The solution is showing love is more potent than giving it.

Even if they don't recieve your love if you make up your mind to be a love person it works.  When you read 1 Corinthians 13 something in me tells me it is true and scripture.  Inspired by God!

It isn't logical.  But it works.  Love endures all and overcomes all.

I have been a clanging prophecy knowledge guy too much but Chapter 13 of Corinthians points out that love will go on, agape love forever even when faith and hope have been completed.

This is a beautiful post, Chad.  It touches on the very heart, the foundation of our faith.  And the truth of what God wants from us, His precious children.

God so loved the world that He gave His Son.  The Son so loved us that He gave His life.  And we love, because He first loved us.
We, who have been loved so utterly, in response are to love others with all that we are, reflecting the Father's love in this world.  Giving, meeting needs.  Loving.  You have stated rightly.

I'm so sorry you are not feeling loved, (((Chad))).  I don't know if it will be of any comfort to you, but I've found that even a good marriage can be a very lonely place if one looks to the other to fulfill their needs and make them happy.

There is only One who truly satisfies the soul.

Blessings.

more on agape-
This is what stops you from being a carnal corinthian, being a love person.

When I did a long fast one of the things I got was the ability to read the Gospel of John. I would try to read it but critical toughts from college would come into my mind. You know, they teach worldly things about the Bible in college some times. But I got what I wanted when Fasting.

The Gospel of John and I John are the main agape love books in the Bible.

The writer says love one another over and over.

I hear your comments thanks.

CS Lewis has a book called the four loves.

Agape is self sacrificeing love.

Eros is erotic love.

Philos is brotherly love like philadelphia.

Storgee is mother bear love. That one is only one place in the bible in the negaative, men are astorgatos, meaning without natural affection.

One interesting qoute of CS Lewis on this I think it is from the four loves is that the only place to be free from the dangers of agape love is hell.

Another example of agape love is after the fall of the soviet union the Russians actually brought in Focus on the Familly if I have my facts right to teach how love as pervasive in a society makes it run better.

And then when I went to Russia in the summer of 1993 I saw it in action. They played the "I just want, to say, I love you" every hour on the centrally controled radio station you heard everywhere.

Speak the truth in love! SHalom!

this provokes me to something...

my love of people has been too all-encompassing!

love is about individual relationships -

I look forward to seeing them (more than I see people I love).

Love is a NT (breet hadasha) empasis especially in the Johanine epistles and Gospel.

Majoring on the majors we need to keep centered here with our posting on what is important I think.